Of note:
>**Also note, wrenches can be found up until the 100th wrench has gone out. There is no per-day limit on the number of wrenches found, and distribution has been designed to be fair to all timezones. Every 25th wrench found will result in the release of more information on the Engineer Update.

So we need to get the entire internet to craft every wrench today, then we'll get the entire engie update at once!

Things I note on the wall-o-stuff:
1) We have the full image of Mann & Family, but Mystery Suit is covered up by what I assume is Dell Conagher's Great Grandfather.
2) Mobile, single-barrel turret. Would be surprised if it's not an unlock. No idea how you're supposed to move it, though.
3) Plans of what seem to be an early version of the Dispenser have "WILL NEVER WORK" written on them.
4) Lincoln Secret Gun Stovepipe Hat. Yes please.
5) Something about a teleporter moving mustaches. Probably some sort of anti-spy unlock.
6) As pointed out in the last thread, we have a map with "Mann's Land", all the other areas are known maps (except Hale River and Thunder Mountain)

The electron diagram of Australium is actually gold (Au).

Only it has a pair of tiny boxing kangaroos for a nucleus I guess.

>>85611

See, that's where they differ.

Normal atoms have electrons and neutrons for a center. Australium has battles for kingship in every delicious atomic center.

>>85612
>delicious atomic center.
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a delicious Australium atom?

I've gotten ten kills with a measly level 1 sentry before. That's twenty crits, not counting the assists I got.

>>85614

Seems pretty obvious Valve wants more offensive front line Engis.

>>85617
Hence the name.

FFFF JUST SAW SOMEONE GET A GOLDEN WRENCH AND HE HAD THE TAG [FAG]

Such rage cannot be captured within a reaction image.

>>85608

Yea those stats will get edited fast as soon as spies start bitching

Am I the only person who LOVES that Valve is actually crafting a compelling story explaining why RED and BLU not only exist but are waging a never-ending war?

the engineer better get a hat that gives him his grandfather's mustache

>>85622

No, thats my fave too.

And holy shit, they're still dropping wrenches? I'd better craft what I've got.

What do you have to craft?

>>85632

Every once in awhile there's a window of opportunity that you'll earn a Golden Wrench for crafting ANYTHING together, on top of the item that the crafting gives you. You've just got to be crafting at just the right time.

>>85634

Actually, according to an e-mail from Robin posted on the forums, its a tiny chance to occur anytime you craft period.

>>85634
Well I'm fucked then. I have nothing to craft, and I don't know how. Fuck.

>>85639
Yeah, I crafted everything I had, then spent three hours playing without a single drop.

>>85642

I'm just crafting slowly. There's a chance it'll happen if I draw it out.

>>85611

So australium is a gold isotope.

>>85646
Obvious, in hindsight.

Two people got gold wrenches in a fifteen minute period, both of them on the same server. I have to admit, I raged a little.

Idlers are the reason the Golden Wrench doesn't rely on playtime, and that makes me angry.

>>85658
Every time the golden wrench message pops up I just yell angrily into the microphone.

Nobody seems to question it.

>>85658 >>85662
>I have to admit, I raged a little.
>Nobody seems to question it.

FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES
AND THEIR MAGIC WRENCH PARTIES

So Lincoln is still alive...

He cant be the modern Pyro because the modern Pyro is too short

>>85666
At first I thought you were full of shit, and that the drawings depict plans to assassinate Lincoln. Then I started looking closer and realized it's all a hat-themed conspiracy. A beautiful, Australian, hat-themed conspiracy.

Lincoln was on the grassy knoll.

>>85664
Kosh, you always know how to make me laugh.

5 more Wrenches until the next part of the update. Keep it up!

>>85685

Yaknow. Think about it. The new drop rate has it so that you only get a new chance for items on Thursday, which often results in people only getting items ON Thursday.

And since Valve's plan to clear out all those spare drops before the update, which happens ON Thursday, to craft for golden wrenches ALSO states that we only get an update peek per every 25 wrenches found...

...isn't it likely that TF2 players will run out of craftable materials BEFORE Thursday?

>>85689
I got a drop yesterday. Just one, though.

I think they'll just mod the drop rate again to increase it if, for some reason, a very large amount of people run out of objects to craft.

I don't see that happening, however. Someone will always be late to the game and start crafting later.

>>85689

As I mentioned before, I stopped playing to prepare for item drops.

Landed three items yesterday, and fully expect to earn at least one more before Thursday.

>>85691
yeah, I'm one of these people and I'm not getting shit. I haven't played in weeks where is my shit?!

  DRR
DRR
DRR

  >>85698

Creepiest video on youtube. Ever.

Also HNNNNG 3 wrenches left to next update.

>>85694

Luck? D:

I got two at once, which probably means the last time I played I was on a 1 sec respawn server like Mario Kart. I don't seem to get items when I'm on those kinds of maps.

>>85693
It...it doesn't actually work like that.

You still only get a certain amount of drops per week that maxes out somewhere between 10 and 20. If you haven't played for a few weeks it doesn't just build up over time, you'll still only get 10 to 20 items. Just the excess item "overflow" gets pushed over to the next play period so that you don't have to play as many hours to earn your drops in that period of time.

>>85702
that still doesn't give me shit.

>The Steam Servers are too busy to handle your request.

I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE GAME? WHAT IS THIS?

One more Wrench to go.
One more.

Its updated!

>>85721
seems overpowered but could potentially be underpowered as fuck

The Wrangler:
>Replaces Pistol
>Allows the Engineer to take control and aim sentry gun
>While Wrangler is active weapon:
>>Creates shield for sentry that absorbs 66% of incoming fire
>Doubles fire rate and slightly increases missile rate
>Sentry is defenseless and inactive for three seconds after switching from Wrangler

pl_thunder?
Likely from the "Thunder Mountains" location on the map.

Also, achievements!

>>85722
That sounds like a very definitive statement.

Great, now we'll have more turtling engies than ever before

Time to bust out them spies

>>85722
You're likely left completely exposed wherever you are; the shield probably doesn't expand around you, and since the sentry won't auto-target a spy can easily walk up and backstab you before escaping. Then in that three second down time the rest of the team rushes in to destroy the sentry and everything else.

I, personally, love it, but it's not without new problems.

This actually encourages engies to build with a plan; two engies place their sentries such that one non-Wrangler sentry can cover a Wrangler-Engineer while he Wrangles, and you could have a very powerful lineup. Doubly so because you can shift the fire such that the sentry won't waste all that ammo on uber'd opponents, instead picking off non-uber'd OpFor trying to push in with the rush.

How does the shield respond to sapping?

>>85721
I was eager for somthing more offensive, but a shielded controllable turret is... well its a stationary tank. So yay!

>>85728
>How does the shield respond to sapping?
Now that is a good question. It would be so broken if the spy has to destroy the shield before they can sap. However if the shield goes when the engie and his gun goes it could be intresting.

>>85721
Unless you can assume direct control from spawn, I can see this making the engineer even more of a spy bait than he already is.

I just had the best idea ever.

STAND ON SENTRY
AIM STRAIGHT UP
FIRE
THE SENTRY JUMP

>>85731
... You're a fucking genius.

Oh man. Use the Wrangler to launch yourself into a fray, destroy the sentry in mid air, and bonus crit the shit out of all those confused BLU bastards.

This has the potential for griefing magic.

Time to guess about the achievements:

Battle Rustler - Teleport 100 players (with one tele?)
Revengineering - Use Frontier Justice to kill an enemy after he has destroyed your sentry
Search Engine - Use the Wrangler to kill a cloaked/disguised spy
Pownd on the Range - Use your sentry to something something something
Building Block - Hell if I know, probably something with protecting the sentry with the Wrangler
Unforgiven - Do something with Frontier Justice
Quick Draw - Kill a spy within 10 seconds of him sapping your building
The Wrench Connection - Use your Wrench to kill a disguised spy
Silent Pardner - Upgrade 50 buildings created by other engineers
Fistful of Sappers - Knock off X Sapper (alternatively, knock off all sappers placed on your Sentry, Dispenser, and Teleporter at the same time)
Doc, Stock and Barrel - Kill X enemies while being healed by a medic
Best Little Slaughterhouse in Texas - Get X Dominations (With one sentry?)
Frontier Justice - Kill an enemy with the Frontier Justice from such a distance
Six-String Stinger - Give an enemy a screenshot of you playing your guitar after killing them?
Uncivil Engineer - Give an enemy a screenshot of your sentry after it kills them?
Texas Two-Step - Finish an enemy off with your shotgun after he takes damage from your sentry (or reverse that)
The Extinguished Gentleman - Heal (X Players)|(A Class) with your dispenser until they are put out
Doc Holiday - Heal a Medic while he heals another player
No Man's Land - Kill 25 Players (with your sentry?) while they are capturing a point or pushing the cart
Trade Secrets - Kill an enemy carrying your intelligence
Death Metal - Build 10,000 buildings
Land Grab - Something with the wrench, obviously
Git Along! - Destroy a building after a friendly spy has sapped it?
How the Pests was Gunned - Kill X Demos/Destroy X Sticky Bombs
Honky Tonk Man - Taunt kill with guitar
Breaking Morant - Kill 10 snipers by something something
Rio Grind - Kill 50 enemies with the Wrangler
Patent Protection - Kill an enemy engineer using the Wrangler?
If You Build It, They Will Die - Kill X people with a lvl3 sentry?
Texas Ranger - Talk about a little later
Deputized - No idea
Drugstore Cowboy - Dispense X metal
Circle the Wagons - Use your wrench to kill an enemy around your sentry?
Built to Last - Maintain a building for X length/entire round
(Not So) Lonely are the Brave - Help a Heavy kill X opponents while being healed by your dispenser

>>85734
>Texas Ranger - Talk about a little later
Looks like this is the third unlockable. Remember that Polycount picture that was supposed to be about the Engie update? It had the Engie holding the toolbox on his shoulder instead of in front of him, like he does now. Considering the icon, which has the same position, I think this is a quick-build alternative, or perhaps the mobile sentry alluded to on the wall.

>>85730
From the description, it makes me think that you have to either have a line-of-sight to your sentry or to your intended target from where you currently are. More likely you have to have a LOS to the sentry, hence the radar dish on the Wrangler. So you could run away, hide somewhere, and control it, but even in spawn an enemy would be able to get behind the sentry and shoot you, or shoot you from a different angle, etc.

>>85731
...I love you.

>>85733
Considering the fall and the fact that they'll start targeting you, it's complete suicide, but sure as hell a fun one.

Also, I'm disappointed there's no Sentrycide option, but I suppose it would be too easy to just jump in front of your own sentry to rack up the necessary deaths.

Engi's guitar confirmed for best weapon.

Swear to fucking god, his tauntkill better be EL KABONG

>>85739
You know what would be even better? Engie's taunt plays the Guitar, and EVERYONE in a short radius taunts/dances. Then teammates are able to kill from afar.

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.

>Doc Holiday
John Henry "Doc" Holiday is one of the most iconic men of the old west.

>No Man's Land
"No-Man's Land" is a term used for a region so desolate, no man could inhabit it.

>Trade Secrets
Trade secrets are secrets used by a corporation in producing a product that they keep secret from their competitors.

>Death Metal
Death metal is a subgenre of heavy metal, often associated with heavy vocals and dark, threatening lyrics.

>Land Grab
A land grab is an effort by one land-owning entity to forcibly aquire the land own by another entity.

>Git Along!
A misspelling of the phrase "Get along," typically associated with cattle herders moving along their cattle.

>How the Pests was Gunned
How the West was Won is a 1962 epic Western film about

>Honky Tonk Man
Honky Tonk Women is a 1969 hit song by The Rolling Stones.

>Breaking Morant
Harry "Breaker" Harbord Morant was an Australian soldier and poet and a 1980 film about his court martial.

>Rio Grind
The Rio Grande is a river that is used to mark the divide between Texas and Mexico.

>Patent Protection
Patent protection is the act of defending the rights to an item you patented.

>If You Build It, They Will Die
"If you build it, they will come" is a famous line from the 1989 film, Field of Dreams

>Texas Ranger
The Texas Rangers are a law-enforcement agency stationed in Texas. Perhaps most famously portrayed in the TV series Walker, Texas Ranger.

>Deputized
When someone is made a deputy by a scherif, they are said to be deputized.

>Drugstore Cowboy
Drugstore Cowboy is a 1989 crime drama.

>Circle the Wagons
Circling the wagons is a common depiction of how setlers would defend themselves from Indian attacks.

>Built to Last
When something is "build to last," it is built to stay functional for a long time.

>(Not So) Lonely are the Brave
Lonely are the Brave is a 1962 film about a cowboy.

>Battle Rustler
A cattle rustler is a person who steals cattle.

>Revengineering
A combination of the words 'revenge' and 'engineering.'

>Search Engine
A search engine is a computer program that finds something, usually websites on the internet.

>Pownd on the Range
Home on the Range is a famous song about life on the open range.

>Building Block
Building blocks are small blocks used to build small constructions.

>Unforgiven
Unforgiven is a 1992 Western film directed by Clint Eastwood.

>Quick Draw
A quick-draw is the act of drawing your side-arm very fast, before your opponent can draw his.

>The Wrench Connection
The French Connection was a drug-trafficing scheme that named a book and film about the event.

>Silent Pardner
The Silent Partner is the title of a number of films.

>Fistful of Sappers
A Fistful of Dollars is a Spaghetti Western staring Cline Eastwood.

>Doc, Stock and Barrel
The lock, stock and barrel are all parts of a rifle, and the phrase is used to mean "in its entirety."

>Best Little Slaughterhouse in Texas
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas is a musical, book and film based on the events on the Chicken Ranch in La Grange, Texas.

>Frontier Justice
Frontier justices is another name for vigilantism, or taking the law into your own hands.

>Six-String Stinger
A 6 String Stinger was a line of electric guitars.

>Uncivil Engineer
Civil Engineering is a branch of Engineering that deals with civil projects and how people behave.

>Texas Two-Step
The Texas Two-Step is a common group dance.

>The Extinguished Gentleman
The The Distinguished Gentleman is a 1992 political comedy starting Eddie Murphy.

>>85702
>You still only get a certain amount of drops per week that maxes out somewhere between 10 and 20.

According to the new post, they're increasing the limit for this week.

Also, cool hidden picture.

Assuming Valve wants to update the Engineer page at roughly the same time every day while still sticking to the "25 wrenches to update!" thing, we're looking at a release for wrench crafting every 57 minutes or so, though there's obviously some variation in that.

So to increase chances, wait until you get the notice that someone found a wrench, then wait about 50 minutes and craft once every 30 or so seconds.

My sincerest and deepest sympathies go out to Mindwipe and any other Mac owner this week, as I've just learned that most of them are having problems with their game crashing the second they're in a server.

I like the flavor text with every item.

This update has no flavor text.

>>85756
Are you counting the text in the post on the main page?

>>85757
I think he means the paragraph-ic descriptions. The update style certainly fits the engineer theme, but we don't get, say, this:

>Until now. A high precision version of the standard-issue rocket launcher, the Direct Hit has been engineered from the ground up for Soldiers who have mastered the art of shooting at their targets instead of vaguely near them. Those of you looking to deal splash damage, stop reading now: the Direct Hit has a 70% smaller blast radius than a traditional rocket launcher. But the rockets that come out of this thing move fast and hit hard: 80% faster and with 25% more destructive force. Best of all, for you real sharpshooters, the Direct Hit guarantees mini-crits on airborne targets.

The Engie update thus far is more straight-to-the-point and almost completely lacks the tongue-in-cheek humor Valve is known for; the only saving grace for that is the miscellaneous stuff pinned to the wall.

>>85759
Engineer is built to last as is, so I'm just fine with Valve tongue-in-check humor.

>>85750
Yeah, but it's still not going to have helped to not play before :|

>>85755
Welp, apparently Valve fixed that today.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/July_6,_2010_Patch

Am I the only one who thinks the engie is getting a gun device for shooting directly behind him?

>>85759

Yeah.

Even the Heavy and Pyro updates had SOME flavor text.

Though it flared up especically with the Scout update.

>>85776 >>85759

Maybe, but I'm thinking its more due to all the WORLD flavor we're getting.

>>85759
>>85776
>>85777
I think there's a lack of flavor text because the update isn't out yet. This is just a teaser, taunting us with what is to come. Come Thursday, each item will have a nice juicy description for us to sink our teeth into.

People who say the idea of the Wrangler is overpowered need to realize that you can't have the Wrangler and your wrench out at the same time. That shield is there to make up for you not being able to repair your sentry while you control it.

They're saving the best item for last, though, I just know it.

>>85783
>They're saving the best item for last, though, I just know it.
MobileSentryMobileSentryMobileSentryMobileSentry

>>85610
>3) Plans of what seem to be an early version of the Dispenser have "WILL NEVER WORK" written on them.

Actually, that's probably supposed to be a Repair Node, that proposed new Engineer building that was announced to have been rejected after playtesting a couple months ago.

http://www.tf2.com/post.php?id=3539

>>85790
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, it's the Repair Node.

Kosh joined the shitty server I was on.

I am sorry Kosh I was just achievement whoring the server is very bad D:

Sure is taking a hell of a long time to get to 75.

feh, looks like the engineer hasn't built anything original ever

he's just stealin shit from his grandfather

>>85802

I guess you didn't read the comic that came with this update.

Valve just banned DrunkenF00l after a Valve employee told him that the wrenches were given out at specific times.

The TF2 team continues to be comprised of morons.

Welp, I'm down to just hats and my trusty Flare Gun now.

And no fucking way am I gonna give up my melee, secondary, and primary weapon slot tokens because I always land an extra four or five of the same weapon before I start getting different weapons of the same class.

>>85808
No, that wasn't enough to ban him. He used a 3rd party script to spam crafting so his odds would go up.

It turns out that it's taking a while to get to 75 wrenches because a lot of the wrenchies have been using the timetables to get them, and have thus been VAC banned for it.

Shit, Team Walker. Was "Drop25.per24hr" so hard to code? Did you REALLY need to assign the drops to a strict timetable?

>>85810
Yeah, that would do it.

>>85811
If they wanted to update by a specific time each day, yeah. Random drops means that it's likely they'll bunch together--the first ten or so could trickle out in the initial 20 hours, and the last 15 cluster up the last five. Or, worse for them (since they want to keep updates during the day, I suppose), all 25 could be found within the first few hours.

It would be better to "burst" them. Have timetables for set hours, but make them spans so that you do, say, five in the first four hours, five in the next four, etc. That way if they pool it won't be everything at once.

>>85812
No, as the original post said that would be moronic. If someone from their company leaked the shit and he crafted normally to get it, it wouldn't be enough to ban him and would be the companies fault. At the most he would get a slap on the wrist. Yet, what he did was use another program to spam crafting to get the wrenches.
>>85811
So far I've only heard of two other people getting banned for the golden wrenches. Both of which probably did the same thing Drunken fool did, find out the times and then use a 3rd party program to spam the servers.

As far as I know Valve got random times set to last through 4 days. Then they copied those times to a list and that got leaked.

http://www.tf2items.com/lists/golden_wrenches/

Rage when you realize that the first Golden Wrench was deleted. As have three others.

pl_hightower
Looks like the end of it takes the payload straight up to the terminus.

Also, who is the Watchmaker?

>>85817
If you click the tag it links to some user.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/watchmaker

>>85818
dear god...

he's becoming.... one of THEM
>>85805

oh, i read the update, thats why i'm saying this. everything the engy builds was built by his grandfather... you'd think he'd update it a little or something but its straight up the same blah im looking into this too much

So our next (final?) unlockable is some sort of Nasty Wrench? This was barely an update. We get a new item with no description and an image of a new map. That's it.

Color me disappointed.

>>85818
I think that's plr_hightower. Note the large image has two towers with cart signs. pl_upward would be the lower one, I suppose. They could be the same and the hightower/upward just crpytic notes.

>>85822
It's usually three days for a new weapon and one or two days for a new map/game mode. Also it was a community weapon.

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Next weapon is a toolbox to move items. I'm guessing it'll take the place of the detonator seeing as that will be useless with movable items.

>>85825
Sweet. I wonder what the limits are for it. Time to (un)pack, does it slow you down, can you only move lvl2 and below, etc.

>>85825

>>85826
Most likely slower movement. Maybe slower re-build times for higher sentries.
>>85818
Does anyone else think that Engi's Grandfather might be Saxton Hale in one of the weirdest twists ever? Just putting it out there.

>>85818

Just noticed the scars and blood stains on Radigan's chest. Hardcore.

It's just now occuring to me that Hightower is a Payload Race map. Notice the opposing towers, one with a radar dish, one with a death ray, both with tracks leading up to it. Notice the red bomb on the lower level.

>>85839

Hopefully it's better than Pipeline. Payload Race is a fine idea but the only map anyone plays is Pipeline, and pipeline suuuuuuuucks.