Wellp, old one's Sage'd. So, new one!So, first thing's first:How the hell do I get those stupid mastery achievements on ME1? I swear, I tallied over 90 uses of Lift, and nothing.And fuck the companion achievments. I can't get any of them to unlock.Also, post your Shepard.
You have to actually use the abilities on a viable target, namely enemy combatants. A workaround for this is to simply target breakable structures like crates (although this doesn't work for Stasis or AI Hacking) and arguably the most useful setup is within the Geth base on Liara's recruitment mission. Simply hop out of the Mako and save your game, then unload your abilities on the environment, Stasis on the nearby Geth, and AI Hacking on the turrets.It'll take you a while, but it's doable.As for Shepards, my favorite is a Colonist/Survivor Paragon Vanguard. As you can expect from having everyone he cares about die around him twice, I'd decided to give him the shittiest possible story paths to offset the inherent "Canon Sue" nature of the character; he sorrowfully broke Liara's heart to be with Ashley before being forced to leave his girlfriend to die on Virmire. Romanced Tali in ME2, though. Couldn't resist. Physically, he looks like the bastard child of Bruce Willis and The Rock, my attempt at a purely distilled action hero.
>>87641God damn, man. Poor Shep.I'm a Vanguard though. Would using Tali work for the Tech achievements?
I used the default Shepards because any time I customized them they went into uncanny valley when they started talking.Also finally finished ME1 in full, all missions, etc. I think when ME3's out I'm just gonna get all the DLC for the first two at once so I can make a completionist's save file without the worry of forgetting if I did or didn't for all the other parts of the game.
I'm doing my ideal run right now in preparation for the DLC that's supposed to connect 2 to 3. I'm playing a Vanguard with extra training in Sniper Rifles and maining Garrus and Liara. Going back, the Mako still sucks, but it sucks less than the that Firewalker shit.
I have two Shepards but pictures of just one. Like a faggot, I have a headcanon for the both of them. This Shepard was a Renegade in the first game. You know, tear shit up, do what needs to be done to complete the mission. Dying changes a lot of things about a person though, and she decides "well fuck. life in this galaxy already sucks as it is. Who am I to make things worse?" So by ME2, she's softened up a little to be more Paragon-with-Renegade-tendencies. Someone who's TRYING to do good and is only kind-of good at it. (pic is that Shep.)The other Shep is paragon who, upon dying and realizing the council turned their back on her, decided to give them a mighty fuck you and become the almighty bitch of the galaxy. (Kind to her crew though because they are not treacherous fuckheads.)Fuck yeah faggy headcanon!
I love faggy headcanon. No for realz.Here are my first two ME2 Shepards, based on the same ME1 completionist run (oh god what a slog that was - hey look another building that looks exactly the same). The only difference is the redhead was decidedly more renegade than the blonde. And once I played renegade I couldn't go back to paragon ever.I've also done a couple of insanity runs, one using this Shepard: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2338/celinesh.jpgYes I love playing infiltrator STFU. And yes I like that hairstyle a little too much. >_>
>>87654I'm just going to use a save editor, lol.
Oh, pff, forgot about gameplay style. Usually stuck with Soldier class because assault rifle fuck yeah, but have really loved Tech abilities so I have a secondary save file as an Inflitrator or Engineer, can't remember which.Used a Paragon-with-Renegade-tendencies for both games, usually getting close to maxing out my paragon score but a sizable chunk of Renegade choices make me seem like a nice person with a bad attitude who doesn't take any bullshit. Case in point: in the first Mass Effect when that bitchy reporter interviews me? I leave the interview about halfway. In the second one, I punch her before she even finishes her first question. But then I always go and hug Tali when she finds her father, and I always take the Paragon route with my loyalty missions to ensure that their ghosts are properly put to rest.
>>87663Pretty sure Zaeed rests better at night when Vido dies rather than taking the paragon route. But good on you.I can never be a jerk to Tali. I was pretty mad at myself when I killed Kal'Reegar because I was too slow at killing the colossus. I also have a hard time letting the injured salarian in Dantius Towers (Thane's recruitment mission) die in front of me. Garrus gave me a hard time on that one. :(
When I get a camera, I'll post my Shep.My friend describes him as a cancer-ridden William Ryker. But he tends to make fun of my character regardless.
>>87665It's been two hours, and I have yet to get the fucking Assault Rifle Expert. I have been shooting fucking monkeys for the better part of two hours.Why do I not have my achievement? I counted: 345 monkeys.
I have one of each backstories mix'n match'd.Male Shep Spacer/Survivor/Infiltrator that looks like the clones from Clone Wars. Neutral through and through, ended up with Jack on the first ME2 and Tali on the ideal.Next up is the Vanguard/Earth Orphan/Skylian Blitz hero. She looks... well, she's harder to place. She's pretty Paragon with the occasional bitch moment. She's bumping the mental uglies with Liara. Because.Lastly is Yoko Shepard, a Soldier/Colonist/Hardass who let her love Kaiden die on Virmire, because ANYTHING FOR THE MISSION. She's pretty renegade-tastic, but with a soft streak through her that leads her to do the right thing a lot of the time. I have no idea who she will end up with in ME2 yet.
>Someone posts the Bioware cliche chart on the Mass Effect forums>Most people just get a good chuckle off of it>Suddenly a ME writer comes in and writes a furious tl;dr response.>Thread eventually locked.It's actually kinda embarrassinghttp://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=705597&forum=144
>>87672The key is to use the assault rifle from the very beginning and never ever change weapons
>>87715Does the achievement work if I'm untrained?
>>87712 >It's actually kinda embarrassing But he's still not wrong in what he said, and he said it right.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirty-Six_Dramatic_SituationsAnd as much as you can say "Hey dude its just a joke", when you're dealing with writers who probably are already never utterly satisfied with whatever they create? You can see why they'd want to put out a counterpoint to critisism that ISN'T valid and is phrased too childishly.
>>87641>Colonist/Survivor Paragon VanguardHoly shit I just started a new game with that. Except mine's a ladyShep.HIGH FIVE NONETHELESS.also, i found this and it made me chuckle.
Lair of the Shadow BrokerTwo years ago, Commander Shepard died and Liara T'Soni fought in a desperate struggle against the Shadow Broker to recover her former Commander. Now that Shepard is back, it's time to even the score.Team up with Liara and confront the mysterious and sinister Shadow Broker in the latest expansion to Mass Effect 2, coming soon!
>>87734OH SHIT THEY'RE USING THE COMIC PLOT THIS IS AWESOME
>>87734Is dat some new pistol?
>>87736Hell yeah it is.It's so sleek and delicious and oddly reminiscent of Star Wars storm trooper armor.I NEED IT.
>>87736I hope so.
>>87739Also someone on /v/ said it takes place after the game. So I wonder if there will be any dialog on the romance choices you make.
>>87734Fuck yeah! The old gang is back to kick ass!!My shep is actually the default male Shep with earthborn/survivor/soldier background, because I feel its the combo it best suited me (I prefer to be a crackshot to having any kind of power and what can I say, I love mah guns).Life has been kinda shitty on him for a good part of his life, but he has struggled hard to get to the places he's at now and has come to realize that his actions can make a difference on others. He makes paragon choices more often than not if he feels the outcome is worhty, regardless if it can lead to some bleak places. He's not afraid to go renegade on someone's ass if pushed enough, though he probably regrets when it happnes sometimes (would never say this, though).Fell in love with Liara in ME1 over their shared curiosity and intrest in knowledge, but is now involved with Tali, as he always found her fascinating but failed to act upon this feelings due to some of his doubts in quarian society and not recognizing some signals she was sending.He stands now at a crossroad, unsure of how to act and for the first time in a long time he just can't see what lies ahead, no matter how hard he tries.
>>87734I saw this image, and this song started playing in my head.
>>87643I know what you mean about the uncanny valley thing.There are just some mouth and eye settings that are just really bad when forced to do anything but remain unmoving. Using pretested face codes works and gets rid of the Udina-like eye clipping you see in his scene in ME2, as well as helps alleviate the grievances of ducklips. Codes like that are up on masseffect2faces.com, but the site seems to be down today.
>>87753yea again part of it is in the U3 Engine which has a LOT of problems when it comes to face sync and with Garrus the texture buffer errors
Finished my first run of ME2 and WOW I ACTUALLY LIKE THE ENTIRE FUCKING CREW. WHAT IS THIS.
>>87775YEAH IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. Miranda and Jacob weren't really anything special (they were alright, but nothing like Tali or Garrus or Legion or Jack) but the crew was really the highlight of the game. Hell, even the NPCs - after every mission, I would run down to the Crew Deck to see if there was an update on that guy's family.
>>87776Yeah, I really loved the two as pals, but when I heard I could romance them? I shrugged and called it pointless.Also Donelly down in the Engine Room always had something hilarious to say, I was sure to visit him after every damn mission.
While we're speaking of Sheps, does anyone have a face code for a kind of boyish or young looking male Shepard? I could only make manly or freaky Shepards.And I guess here's my Shepard. The only picture I have of her with eyelashes... does anyone else have that problem? Just suddenly their eyelashes'll disappear? I kind of feel lame for not having a headcannon about her.
>>87895HAL WANTY! HAL WANTY SO MUCH!
>>87895Hmm. Well-sculptured, finely detailed, excellent craftsmanship. Wonderful representation of good doctor, will recomment to others.
>>87910
Anyone else planning on buying any of these. I want Garrus, Mordin, and Tali. I'm kind of considering Shepard but good lord that face.
>>87926Poor Garrus. His toy is force to forever have the damaged armor.
>>87927MAN, that shit was annoying until they came out with a fixed armor.
>>87640Hey, forgot to explain the companion achievements.Simply complete 35 Assignments and 15 Missions in a single playthrough with a given character in your squad. While this is relatively easy for most characters, Liara requires something of a carefully planned run of the game to accomplish it.The weapon achievements? Easy. Kill the Pyjaks on Eletania and rinse, reload, repeat.
>>87895>>87926>>87927When and where are these going to be released?
>>87935I also need to know this.My Batman and Shadowrun dwarf statues are getting very lonely, and I think a Mordin would brighten the top of my desk right up.
>>87935The first wave which consists of Thane, Tali, Grunt, and Shepard come out next month. They're DC Direct so you'll only find them in comic/hobby shops or online.
I'll probably break down and get Tali. But what I'm really excited for is getting Garrus and causing a little chafing.I still have all the capes from my old Batman figures, including a giant 90s cowl.
>>87943I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IMPLYING, AND THERE BETTER BE PICTURES.And maybe a custom Batman armor repaint if the figures are cheap. That would be AWESOME.
If I have the cash to pony up, I'd get every figure. Except Shepard, fuck that. I'm hard gay for FemShep.http://www.toywiz.com/masseffect.html>Garrus and Mordin not being released first>I raged so hard
>>87980If they're anything like the WoW figures though they might be kinda cheap. Yeah they have some nice detail to them, but they can't even stand on their own which is BS.
>>87998Yeah, the articles I read said they won't be more than $25, so that's good.
I SO want Shep and Tali
>>88060That's the general cost for non limited run figures from DC. If you plan to buy them though and they don't come with their own stand I advise not taking them out of the box.
>>88112But then how am I supposed to play with them?
>>88154You wouldn't get much enjoyment out of playing with them since their limbs aren't movable.
>>88157well ball joint shoulder and hinge wrist but really they have so much detail all the joints are about plum useless.
>>88112But I need to take them out of the box so I can put them on my desk. Although I could just steam the plastic open then reseal it if I ever need to sell them.No big deal.
Man, I forgot how scary Sovereign sounds.
Hmmm they have another DLC before Shadow Broker stuff apparently and the weapon that have been shown in the SB Screenshots are from that Content. Really hoping they give something to wrap up the Liara romance or at least a lead into a completed relation with her in 3 (though personally I'll run through that with Jack and Tali as my primaries)
>>88195Never get over how much he sounds like Leonard Nimoy and Soundwave blended together.
>>88343OH WAIT, PETER JESSOP VOICED SOUNDWAVE IN WAR FOR CYBERTRON! HAHAHAHA!
>>88195Who sounds scarier?Sovereign?Harbinger?
>>88346Or Orson Welles sounding bored?
Also, what's with Saren's horns? Do they grow as a Turian grows older, like an Ibex?
>>88348I mean, look at this one. See the difference?
I thought they were like broadcast receivers that were just made to look normal what with that cord in them.
>>88348maybe but it also might be Cybernetics since like Shep he got ripped all to hell and rebuilt a couple of times over his career.
>>88348Could be genetic variation, like connected earlobes. There's a few other turians who have longer side plates, but nowhere near as long as his.
>>88367this is true since Bioware has clrealy not been a slouch in the generic background category with aliens (humans are a different bag though) I mean many Asari have different tones, textures, face shapes and markings dependent on their "father" genetics with some being just cultural like the turian settlement tattoos others having clear Krogan textures (Bartender clearly has scale textures) and then the Pure bloods that have softer features while the human fathered ones tend to have more rounded faces...its quite interesting.
>>88375We haven't even seen any Human-Asari. They're literally still in their infancy.Also, fuck it. I'm starting again as a Soldier to get the ach-WaitWhat would a Hanar-Asari look like? Or a Volus? Oh dear god, would a Batarian-Asari have four eyes? Or eye spots?
>>88381someone needs to get to word on art for that. A Hanar Asari...hmmm maybe a bit broader with a deeper voice, Batarian Asari possibly would have facial ridges and facial markings were the eyes would be I think.
>>88382KeeperElcorQuarianV-Vorcha...CollectorRachniWe need a drawfag! Stat!
>>88382There's already a Batarian-Asari in ME2. I didn't get a very close look at her, but she's talking to a friend on Illium, in the area where you find that inspector who tells you to catch a cab to get to the area where Samara is. Y'know, the place where you do the first part of Liara's mission. They're talking about some dangerous drug thing.
>>88383>>88382>>88381Guys they don't borrow genetic material, they just randomize their natural asari DNA to closer resemble the species they melded with.
>>88383wonder if it would be cumulative I mean Sheppard was the first to have a truly mixed crew and I wanna see what an Asari would look like after a thousand years of species crossing. Heck I wanna see the Clan of the Asari and the Krogan poet, you thought an Asari Commando was dangerous now she's got Krogan family as backup (Remember it only takes one of each to obliterate a station)
>>88385its a contradiction with the Bartender being the key one declaring that its crap
>>88385That was a retcon, though. As Bunker said, the Krogan-Asari Bartender looked like she had scales, the Asari Councilor had Turian markings as well as tattooing, and according to Astro, eyespots for the Batarian-Asari.
>>88388All life on earth shares the some amount of genetic code, its something like 50 percent for a human and a banana so even if its still just a sequencing of what is already available in the host they may still end up with traits that would have occurred doing things "The ol' fashioned way" I mean they all just about nitrogen breathing life forms and humans ourselves still have genetic markers that would have triggered the development or scales and such had the right conditions been met. And that doesn't add into the environmental conditions and such that could also influence things.
Doodled what I think a Batarian-Asari would look like anyways. Face markings are fun.
>>88383Oh, and they can't bond with the Keepers. They're an engineered construct.
>>88398though they likely could be forged into a Keeper like being
>>88399Oh yeah, no doubt, given the right level of technology. But that would undermine the entire concept of Asari reproduction. If they could just go around sexily taking bits from every ancient bio-engineered being, the Mass Effect universe would have some kind of Asari Terminator going around. Nah, the Keepers don't reproduce. When one of them are damaged or destroyed, another one pops up to take its place. Like geth, but more complicated and old. And probably evil. There's no genetic line to patch from.
>>88400well Keepers are more or less just machine extensions of the Citadel gate system to keep it operational for when the Reapers once again return.
>>88398I thought the Keepers were one of the races enslaved/mindfucked/Indoctrinated by the Reapers' dentist drill waves? In Saren's base you have a whole bunch of Salarians in cages that have been the game says have been indoctrinated, and Saren fears the same thing will happen to him (hence the cybernetics).
>>88415Ok, one. "But Shepard's words bred doubt in Saren's mind. Sovereign saw his conviction beginning to falter, and implanted Saren, making him cybernetic and completely devoted to the Reapers' cause. Saren thought of himself as "the future", a true cyborg, a fusion of both organics and technology, comprising "the strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither." "Two. Dentist Drill Wave?Three. Lookie what I found.
>>88415No, there's a mission surrounding the Keepers in ME1, where if you scan all of them for some Salarian to help with his research, Shepard gets an email from him about his conclusions in ME2. He tells of how the Keepers are self-repairing autosomal bio-engineered constructs that were brought into creation to watch the Citadel, and that every 50,000 years their biological clock rolls over and they destroy themselves to give control back to their makers, the Reapers. Or something like that. He says that the current 50k years are almost up and that the Reapers are coming back to claim what's theirs.
>>88417Yeah, that VI, Vigil, you encounter on Ilos tells you all of that stuff before the salarian can email you about it in 2. The Keepers were created by the Reapers to open the citadel when they showed up after the next 50k year gap in time. The conduit on Ilos allowed a prothean team to sneak back on to the citadel after it was abandoned and "reprogram" the Keepers so all they really function to do now is repair the station.
>>88418Stupid VI, ruining all my sleuthing fun.Anyways, I think I might do more of the Asari race-mixing pictures, since all the game really shows any evidence of is Asari-Turian and Asari-Krogan. Vorcha and Hanar are definitely on my list.
Illium also has some Asari-Batarian and Asari-Salarian.
>>88457Oh, yeah, and the father really wanted to get his wife something to remember him. He was close to thirty-five. Tugged a heart string.
>>88497OH GOD THAT SALARIAN I BAW'D ;A; this is all the proof i need to know that salarians do love people, just in their own twitchy way
Was there ever an available option to talk to that gamer on the citadel? There was a trailer showing Shepard talking to him I recall but I've never seen him alone to be able to do so.
" Klencory: small, out of the way unpopulated world occupied by one wealthy volus named Kumun Shol and his mercenaries, who have apparently been ripping the surface apart for the past decade looking for the "lost crypts" of the "beings of Light" in order to defend the galaxy against "Machine Devils" based off a "vision" Shol claims to have received from a "higher being." "Sound familiar, anyone?
Hey, does anyone remember what that one guy said about Krogan reproduction in a previous thread? All I remember is the immediate reaction:"Oh God. Mordin was right."I want to add it to TVTropes.
It's time for funny. Or awesome, I'm good either way.Just, y'know, make it happen, It'll make my swollen head feel better.
>>88521And for sake of the nature of the game itself, enjoy this femshep alternative.
>>88521>>88526Yeah, I still like Jennifer Hale's voice better. But renegade Mark Meer is pretty funny. All I can think about when I hear him as a renegade is this picture.
>>88530That is still one of my favourite jokes.
HAHA Seth Green.
Three questions:1. Ardat-Yakshi kill their mate when they try to bond, right? And they are sterile. What would happen if two Ardat-Yakshi mated? Would they kill eachother?2. If Asari don't actually need to mate, and only need to look at someone's genetic history to swap around, why is that so detrimental when they do that to eachother? What would be the difference?3. In that regard, do Asari asexually reproduce by budding?
>>885511.Yes 2.Its something to do with increasing the genetic diversity of the culture and purebloods are seeing as being wasteful and being an its usually a taboo (something probably linked to their first contacts with other races or something) which is why Purebloods usually keep quiet or become isolated i.e. Liara at the excavation site.3.I think they become pregnant though the gestation cycle is not gone into yet I think. Maybe Liara will drop a baby bomb on Shep in three both male and female!!
>>88552That still doesn't make sense, but what do I know?Ok, so I just arrested Anoleus, and a thought came to me. How does due process work? I mean, a human charged with kidnapping would get 45 to life, counting for inflation. Would a Krogan get a longer sentence since he lives that much longer? Opposite goes for a Salarian.
>>88556Rape would get a Salarian a two day sentence; he's back raping the same Asari before they can even get him a shuttle off the Citadel. By the time he dies, this Salarian has spent a third of his life raping that same Asari.>>88551I always imagined that since they become mind pregnant, Asari produce the baby from the back of their heads. That mass of tentacles is actually an alien birth canal.
>>88559Isn't there some 34 of that, actually? I used to see something like that back when I derped around Gurochan.
>>88561That piece of art actually predates Mass Effect, if I'm not mistaken.
Is there anything that compares the average strength of each species?
>>88597Off the top of my head:Elcor>>krogan>>quarian>turian=human>salarian=asari. And that's based only on physical strength and hardiness, I'm sure in terms of volatile threat we can almost always give it to the krogan in a gunfight. Unless you're Shepard.
>>88601Note that this is inferred from the Codex and off-handed comments I caught in game from other characters. I'd have put quarians much lower if I didn't hear that one clip on Tuchanka about how tough they were compared to the turians and humans, even with weakened immune systems.
>>88602and the fact that they send A SQUAD to take on a planet of raging hellbots
>>88584I know. But I'm one of those guys who loses sleep and doesn't eat until he figures out what it is....Do you know what they are? I'm hungry...
>>88603As well as the fact they have proportionately the most heavily armed armada in the Galaxy. Seventeen thousand strong. The Alliance only has, what? Two hundred?
>>88607bet the council has never considered that. If we can forge a Geth/Quarian alliance then things should rock
>>88606If you're talking about the images I think you are, they're some sort of personified sea angels or something...
>>88602Quoth Grunt, citing one of his tank impressions:>Humans are soft. Asari, Salarians...soft. Quarians, not so much. Turians are worth killing.
>>88620Other krogan as well as him also infer that it's mostly because their plated asses were what helped to wipe them out with brute force along with the problems of the genophage. The krogan clearly think of them as just a slightly less squishy salarian because of their metallic exoskeleton, but still pretty damn squishy.
>>88633Shep can vouch for the Squishy of the Quarian body
Quarian toughness could also come from cybernetics.
>>88637I don't know. Grunt's comments about Quarians came from his tank training. Those images were from some old krogan. Krogan who, like Aethyta on Illium, probably remember Quarians from before they had to wear suits.
>>88664Didn't Grunt refer to the toughness of Quarian skin? IE a Krogan could still easily tear the head off a Quarian, suit or not.
>>88673Dammit, I spent 15 minutes trying to find a video or exact quote of that dialogue. I am pretty sure Grunt is just talking about the overall squishyness of each race, but I could be wrong.
>>88685The context of the quote was that Shepard asked him if he had any other impressions about Humans; He replied that all it takes to kill us is sticking two fingers in our back and severing our spines. Then he said the quote.Take from that what you will.
So, I am unsure of how many of you have picked up the books that tie in, but I figure this is as good a place as any to plop this.The new one is out "Mass Effect: Retribution" and I'll probably buy it at some point (because I have a lot of down time at my job) but just from the blurb I thought we could get some interesting conversation going: TIM is apparently messing around with implanting reaper tech into people.
>>88705I picked up some of that from the Gamefaqs ME2 board. I wish I had the time to read another book. I haven't been able to find the time to. :(
>>88705Finished that one a few days ago, a pretty good read. TIM screws around with Reaper tech (does not end well for Grayson) and Aria.
>>88725Screwing around with Aria is a pretty bad idea.
>>88725For real? Dammit. Now I want to read it.
>>88728Do it! I'm nearly done, and I've already enjoyed it immensely. Go ahead and read the other novels while you're at it. The first one is rather blah, but the second one is very good, and this one is very good so far, too.
>>88731Do I need to read them in order?
>>88735Is the Space Pope reptilian?
... Well that was an unexpected surprise...
>>88736No...?
>>88739Wow, German Mordin is not nearly as exciting as the English one.German Garrus on the other hand...
>>88743... Glad I just took a shower.
>>88743AMAZING.
>>88743 My greatest nightmare, a galaxy that speaks only German.
>>88743OH MY GOD
>>88743>dat voice
>>88743ohh gimme Tali in Russian..wonder if that can be done in game keep English subtitles and hear those awesome voices
>>88743Is there like a patch to change the voice-over to another language?Please say yes.
>>88770No clue, I only have ME2 on the 360. I think you can mess with .ini files if you have the European PC version. Somebody did that to get English voices with German text.
>>88769After sleuthing around, I think there isn't an official Russian dub. Russian text, but only English voices ship.Russian Tali would be joygasmic.
>>88770For the Steam version, if you go to Properties there's a choice to change the local language. I don't have it installed right now though, so I can't check whether that's voice as well.
>>88388>It was a retcon though.It was not a fucking retcon, Jesus Christ. The asari just randomizing their own DNA but not taking genetic material from the father species has been there since the first game.
>>88731>Do it! I'm nearly done, and I've already enjoyed it immensely. Go ahead and read the other novels while you're at it. The first one is rather blah, but the second one is very good, and this one is very good so far, too.I like the first novel for its portrayal of Saren. We get to see what he was like before indoctrination as well as how he thinks. We also got some insight into the Council and how humanity relates to it. The book is more pessimistic about the Council than the game is.As for the other two novels... the second book was alright. It wasn't too memorable I didn't think.Retribution is much better though. We see a lot more from the Illusive Man's perspective and see what kind of a person he is beyond his projected image.A lot of people won't like it, but...He is apparently honest about his belief in stopping the Reapers, protecting humanity, and is even willing to sacrifice his own life if need-be.He isn't one-dimensional at all.
>>88895You'd have to be that kind of guy to shell out that much money into reviving a dead Alliance marine. If he was just after reaper tech he could have sent other people. TIM's got misplaced ideas about how to run things but he's still a persuasive and charismatic motherfucker, and his intentions are at least in the right place. Also I've decided that Miranda and TIM is my new OTP. Because I like her character better that way.
>>88895>>88945>Implying any character played by Martin Sheen could be one dimensional.Shame the same can't be said for his sons.
>>88743IT'S LIKE A PARTY IN MY EARS.
.
>>89168Well that was different.
>>88945You know I always felt that Miranda's sudden betrayal of the Illusive Man at the end of the game if you destroy the base was a bit out-of-character. Before that she never once shows any doubt about TIM or Cerberus. I get the feeling it was just there to appease the player.
>>89188It might have been that one line Miranda thought TIM wouldn't cross for the greater good. Judging from her talks about TIM, she believes in the cause, but isn't always 100% on the lengths they go to, just a lot moreso than Jacob.
So in the interests of SCIENCE, I have decided to do my FOURTH Mass Effect (1&2) playthrough... as myself. This means I am going to roll up someone who looks sort of like me and I am going to make whatever choice comes natural to me instead of trying to play paragon or renegade or an 'everyone dies' playthrough (lol THAT was fun. And shortlived.). I shall document my progress and we'll see how Jordan Shepard turns out by the end of ME2. It'll be an adventure! Or horrible. WHO KNOWS.
>>89212"Jordan"? You're making your Shep a dude?
>>89214Or am I forgetting genders again?
>>88893Yeah, it was.In ME1, Liara tells us that Asari daughters receive the best traits of the father species in a pairing, but in ME2, we are told that Asari only use alien DNA to randomize the genetic material of their own child. This is a retcon. Whether or not any genetic information from the father is used isn't mentioned. If they don't actually take any genetic material from the father, then the Asari assumption concerning Purebloods is superstition.
>>89217Uh...those two things do not seem contradictory to me. Asari do not receive genetic material from the father, and thus are always full-blooded Asari. But the manner in which their DNA is 'randomized' (bad word for it) is based off of the father's mind, which the mother connects to. Different species think differently and thus result in differently DNA'ed kids.Not a retcon.
>>89217I'm still going with the bartender and the Scientists don't know shit what they are talking about.
>>89217Quote Liara, discussing Asari reproduction: "Physical contact may or may not be involved."How would the father's genetic material get into the mother with no physical contact?
>>89215Dude, Jordan is a girl's name too. And it's my last name, anyways. Sara Shepard sounds too ... nice.
only the scrubbiest of scrubs make male shepardz
>>89212You....you didn't do that your FIRST playthrough? ....oh god, don't tell me I'm the only one who played as myself the first time. D:IN OTHER NEWS, I found that quote Grunt was using to explain squishiness. Paraphrasing, he's explaining how much harder turians are to kill in hand to hand against a krogan with a specific method involved, that being severing the lower spine with a krogan's....finger? Talon? I'm not sure we've ever seen one without gloves. At any rate, he points out that turians are hardest to kill by that method, but they're just as squishy in most other fashions, so "why bother?"
Notes from my replay, just finishing up with Eden Prime:1) You know, I know that Saren "hates humanity." Like, they explain that shit in the novels. But's always bugged me how willing Shepard is, paragon or renegade, to believe Anderson. The way he talks about Saren makes him sound a little crazy sometimes...2) Shut up, Kaiden, I swear to god. He's not even that attractive. Whoever designed him at BioWare deserves to lose their job. And he's such a know-it-all good-boy. It's annoying.3) Haha oh wow these graphics look weird. Everyone's faces look like they're made out of clay.
>>89226>But's always bugged me how willing Shepard is, paragon or renegade, to believe Anderson. The way he talks about Saren makes him sound a little crazy sometimes... That was the one thing that bugged me. Not so much with the Anderson thing, but with the whole Reaper thing. There was just no way to play a skeptical Sheperd who initially believes that the beacons' visions are just shitty dreams.
>>89222My bad. Completely forgot Surname as well. Memory goes to shit after two in the morning.>>89219>>89220>>89221Ok, Ok, fine.
>>89229I hate that there is no way to lie to the Council. No matter what happens during that meeting, you have to go and open your stupid mouth about the Reapers and your "vision." I don't see why there isn't an option to NOT mention the damn vision and come up with some bullshit excuse for how the beacon was destroyed. It was a goddamned warzone! "It was damaged in the crossfire" is, in fact, a legitimate excuse that any sane governing body would accept.
>>89231Or the Geth broke it before it could be recovered.
>>89231>any sane governing body>The Council>any sane governing body>The Council
Aimo, sweetie, I love you but dammit, no one anywhere cares about Kaiden.
>>89257...Shepard did. ;~;
>>89257Question. Who does Shepard ( and by extension, everyone else) care about less, Kaiden or Jacob.Second Question: Which one would win a karaoke contest?
>>89286Jacob. Kaidan had some fire to him.
>>89257Man, I don't know what people's problems are with Kaiden, I liked him. Not enough to ROMANCE him, but he was cool by my book. Same with Jacob.
I think part of the problem with Kaidan, Ashley, Jacob and (to a lesser degree) Miranda is that none of them get an engaging introduction to the story. In the first game, everyone else has a relevant role in the story before the possibility of them joining you is ever raised. In the second game, everyone gets an introduction via a level that's entirely about them and the effect their presence has had on that place. But your starting human members are always just. . .there, and the story could go on just as well without them.
I always thought it was odd how gung-ho everyone was about the Conduit in the first game. Nobody even knew what it was, what it did, what it looked like, only what it was called and that maybe Saren was looking for it. But Anderson hears one mention of it and all of a sudden it's "THIS IS YOUR MISSION NOW. YOU MUST FIND THIS THING." It's like there was a whole conversation the players missed out on.
>>89309I kinda like it when a game leaves something out for you. It lets you make up your own little story, such as the whole backstory for the conduit.
>>89313I too enjoy when a story has plotholes. That way, when my friends and I are watching or playing it, we rip it apart for our own great amusement.
>>89309To be fair not everyone was keen on the conduit being important, especialy not the council who just wanted you to get Sarren because he was revealed to be a rogue spectre with Geth ties. Anderson only thought it must be bad, because Sarren was after it, his opinion coloured by Sarrens past brutal actions.
Where no Mako has ever been before.
>>89309Well, it was sort of the only lead you had. You know Saren is looking for it, so if you search for it as well, even if it itself turns out to be nothing, that will put you on the trail.
>>89322>>89168This is the best LP ever.
>>89323I knew that was what they were going for, it just seemed like Anderson and Shepard acted like they knew why it was important rather than just that it was a lead.
Alright those of you who don't plan to read the Mass Effect novels, I'll drop some spoilers for everyone. There's a pretty good chance of this information being relevant to ME3.Alright, to start with, Anderson is back. Apparently canonically Udina got the Councillor job despite the fact I'm pretty sure NOBODY gave it to him if they could help it.-The Turians used info that ex-Cerebrus operative Grayson had collected to make a huge series of damaging raid against multiple Cerebrus targets, including a lot of their shell corporations, so TIM is hard up for cash to run the organization (while remaining very solvent himself). Meanwhile, most of his operatives inside the Alliance have been arrested.-It's revealed that TIM's station is mobile. He moves it every time an operative leaves so nobody can attack his main base. This finally explains why the star changes colors if you choose to blow up the Collector base. Miranda knew where it was, so TIM had to move it.-Anderson quits his political position, finally getting fed up with all the politics BS, but due to what TIM did with Reaper tech, he's going to be persuing the Reapers instead of ignoring them, using whatever contacts he can get.-Anderson is going to be getting himself some regularly. The main character of the books, Kahlee is hooking up with him now.-Aria had a daughter. Cerebrus killed her. Aria is not pleased.Anybody that really wants to read the books, I suggest absolutely NOT checking the above.
Just completed the second one last night, have to say that Legion was my new favorite character.Did anyone else Give the reaper station to TIM?I protested at first but then my team mates said "yeah, it's totally ethical, man." Speak to everyone later, and EVERYONE is uneasy with what you didI started to feel uneasy afterwards
>>89534>Aria is not pleasedOH SWEET CHRIST, IF I CAN RECRUIT ARIA IN 3... I... I... oh god i think I need to sit down for a minute...
>>89541Three is gonna be a whole bunch of crazy awesome no matter what
>>89539Personally, my four Shepard's have that coveredParagon shep, paragon ending (save the council, destroy the station)Paragon shep, renegade ending (kill the council, capture the station)And the same with Renegade ShepFun fact: I used to have fifteen Shepards. Only ones remaining now are Nine through Thirteen, since I had an old shitty 20Gb.
>>89560I've only had three Sheps, and only in Mass Effect 1:Paragon, Male, Rock Shepard (Rock-Hard Shepard automatically changed to that)Renegade, Fem, I don't even rememberAnd one perfect Paragon Manshep playthrough, but I haven't finished that one or started on 2 because Minecraft owns me.
>>89541Isn't Aria the crime lord in Omega who very likely was the asari commando Wrex was ordered to take down and ended up blowing up a space station as a result?
>>89565Ordered to take down or part the biggest husband and wife throwdown in history? We've got two stories of a Krogan and an Asari tearing a station all to hell and then basically counting the other as dead.
>>89534Wait, who is Grayson, the ex-cerberus operative? Was he just a book character or did I miss somthing in me2?
>>89585http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Paul_Grayson[/spoiler]
oh my sweet lordI just picked up the Aegis and Firepower packs with my spare BWP earlier today, and goddamn are they both sweet. The Incisor sniper rifle is perfect for Garrus, and the Phalanx hand cannon comes with a laser sight.
>>89667I just picked up the Firepower pack, haven't had time to try it out yet. But I just couldn't resist the siren call of a new hand cannon.I'm very much in love with the Incisor sniper rifle for Garrus, Zaeed and Thane. Shepard, not so much.
>>89667I really want to pick up the Firepower pack, but I'm thinking about waiting until the new mission comes out too.
>>89667When it comes to my Shepard, I always seek the helmet that make her look the most like a horrible walking death machine.The Kestral armor pieces and their glowey-ness do wonders for this... Not to sure about the helmet, makes her to robocop-ish.Am I willing to sacrifice stats for style? YOU BET YOUR ASS.
Hey, is there a reason the Firepower pack was paid DLC and not Cerberus Network DLC?
>>89706Because almost nothing is Cerberus DLC anymore. If you are really bothered about paying, get only big mission DLC (Kasumi, Overlord, Shadow Broker when it is released)>>89699>sacrifice stats for styleThis is why I always give my Shep the visor. Actual emotion + headshot damage = winYeah, Kestrel helmet looks sooper dooper Robocop like.
Kestral armor with Green and Orange= Cyber Mikey
Terminus. That is all.
How do we feel about French Garrus?God that is one ugly frog faced FemShep
>>89760He sounds too suave to me.
Anybody else here like Wakfu? Because Wrex sure sounds like Rubilax. Not sure if that's a good thing... He sounds a little too suave for my ears. :/ Small voice acting pool?
Last non English vid. I think this as close to Russian Tali as I'll find.
Well then.I finally got my Mastery achievements. And I even got a Quarian companion right after completing Pinnacle Station.Yay. Liara to go, then the other four.
>>89808ME1 achievements seemed like a chore...
>>89850Land on the planet find the stuff, Land on the planet find the stuff..LAND ON THE PLANET AND FIND THE STUFF....AGHH!!!
I did the planet exploration stuff once. Never again. All the cash was nice for buying slick gear, but in the end I just couldn't make myself care. I don't know how people played ME1, completionist style, more than once.
Driving the Mako made up for all the crap locations on the planet.Did you know you can ram into Collosus Geth? :D
>>89889Well sure but how long will the Mako last?I do enjoy using the Mako as cover. More experience, better combat (I hate shooting with the tank), get to see your tank wrecked....it's pretty awesome.
>>89891I loved fighting Thresher Maws in the Mako then jumping out and finishing it off on foot to get all that XP.
>>89886I did it once. NEVER AGAIN, HOLY FUCK. So unbelievably tedious.I understand why people miss the planet exploration and other Mako things, because in small doses it really did add to the game! But in large amounts it is the worst thing.
>>89808Not even three missions later, Asari Companion unlocked. So now I'm starting on my Adept and Soldier achivements.Any suggestions on my class? I want to get some other mastery achievements, like Lift and Barrier. I've heard the odd rumor that you don't an enemy to unlock them, you just need something to target, like a header or an upgrade kit. Is this true? I don't want to psend three hours getting ripped off.
>>89897Thresher Maws were rather easy for meEquip one guy with Radioactive rounds, another with Inferno, and yourself with Shredder. Went down three times faster than if I attacked it Vanilla. Had a bit of a problem with range, though.Word of advice: If you can see his health, he can melee you.
I liked exploring the worlds. I didn't like the finding minerals or recovering artifacts. As long as I didn't have to drive over mountains driving the Mako was alright. Then stumbling upon a geth ambush or a mercenary encampment was great.
>>89904The mountain thing was kinda fun. Climbing a nice, big hill, then throwing yourself off the edge as far and as high as you can to see if you can hurt yourself.Unless your scaling a sheer cliff. Fuck those.
>>89901I didn't bother with ME1 achievements, TBH, but would this help?http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/930279-mass-effect/faqs/50960
>>89904I liked it up to a point. It was really fun at first. But having to endure 3-5 minutes of tedious driving around just to complete pretty much any sidequest really wore on you after a while.And then if you were like me, and wanted to get all the minerals/other discovery quests....
>>89906Ok, so according to this, I don't need to target anything.See you guys in three hours!
Also, theoryRachnii are able to see sound via echolocation, like a Future Predator.They frequently refer to death and things that are seen as "hearing", "sounds", or "melody"Simply put, Rachnii are blind, they saw indoctrination.Inodctrination is sound.Ergo, absolute soundproofing could protect you.Thoughts?
>>89910Technically, echolocation is seeing with sound, not actually seeing the sound. So yeah, if they had big fluffy earmuffs or something like that, it could work. In theory, of course.
>>89916 Or use the drones to isolate the specific frequencies or pitches used in indoctrination and try to build some sort of dampener for it.
I was thinking about indoctrination the other day, and I had a thought: Reaper involvement in species' evolution might have been greater than we thought.What started it off was the Reaper IFF mission, where the dead Reaper's indoctrination is still active. It then occurred to me that setting aside the "still active parts of a dead Reaper" thing, it's odd that indoctrination would be able to produce such specific effects in the brains of species that it had never encountered before. But it would make sense if the Reapers had not only guided our technological development, but somehow affected our basic evolutionary paths as well. I'm thinking something like the Monoliths from 2001, where maybe they left some sort of automated system on garden planets that would kickstart the development of certain types of brains and behaviors.Either that or there's some sort of feedback system built into the indoctrination that stumbles on the right signals by trial and error.
This picture is appropriate again, hurray!I don't know where I got it from, but it's now my personal fanon. Unless of course this is actually canon from Bioware (codex, books I didn't read)....But anyway, one way or the other if Reapers have been around since back in the day, which was a Wednesday by the way it would be cake for them to guide evolving species so that they would be susceptible to indoctrination.Oh, stupid thought.... The Citadel is reaper tech, right? So why hasn't everybody on the Citadel become Reaper slaves just like contact with actual Reapers (dead or alive)? What point would it serve to keep individuals' free wills when they're living on the Citadel?
>>89927... Whoa wow that's crazy elaborate...I remember the abnormal sun outputs and figured they'd be a big feature next game... But um, where'd the time travel thing come from? also Gas Giant Supercomputers and Living Light Ships? I can't seem to recall...
>>89760>frog faced>>89905The trick with sheer cliffs is not to try driving straight up. I'd weave back and forth at a not-quite-horizontal angle. I learned that from an episode of Ultimate Muscle!>>89925It's possible. The trinket you get from Sha'ira the Consort in the first game activated this Prothean Orb on Eletania, which gave you visions of Protheans studying a Cro-Magnon by using a device that let them see through its eyes (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Eletania#The_Vision).
>>89927 Free will allows them to be active and collect the resources the reapers need to make it back to dark space. Indoctrination leaves the husks totally dependent on the commands of the reapers or else they just rot away like what happened to the Protheans that weren’t whisked away to be used as collectors.
>>89933Selective breeding in much the way humans do with animals
>>89933I never really got that. Why does no one consider the possibility of a Prothean Reaper in the game?
>>89936The Reapers did try to make one, but it didn't work for some reason.
>>89945That was a theory by EDI, IIRC. I figured they did make a prothean reaper, then used the population that failed the conversion process to create the Collectors.
>>89947 Maybe we'll get to destroy it in the third game and wear some of its mind altering parts as a hat.
I didn't know it was possible, but somehow I've gotten to through the 1st romance scene (in Garrus' case, the 2nd as well) for all three male love interests. WTF. Shouldn't at least one of these characters be telling Shepard to stop whoring around?
>>90037 >>Whoring aroundTHE TRUE REASON WHY PEOPLE PICK FEMSHEP.
>>90038Odd, guess in space men take what they can get. While Women be greedy bitches
>>90038There are other reasons!I really like Jennifer Hale's voice. Also having to stare at a digital ass for hours becomes all the more easy when that ass is designed to mimic a female one.... for me at least.
I finally played the Overlord DLC mission. Despite playing a super renegade run, I couldn't leave David in the project. Felt good to threaten Dr. Archer for being such a dick to his own brother.
>Geth Incursions>Maji>Spamming Throw, Stasis, Sabotage, Overload and Barrier at the last Colossus.>Ashley and Kaiden both dead.>Two HP left>In desperation, get into Mako and ram Colossus down a ledge.>Exit, continue spamming>Barrier>Colossus shoots me>MISSION FAILED.>That was two hours worth of spamming.
So. Mass Effect on the PS3. Who saw it coming after the EA acquisition?
>>90234OOH OOH OOH!
>>90234I love me some PS3, but I can acknowledge that if gamers only had the cash to buy the PS3 or the 360, not both, they should pick the 360. Better online, more games, blah blah blah...This definitely feels like EA trying to milk more cash from the franchise. It's just a damn shame PS3 players aren't getting Mass Effect 1 as well. I really dislike the default options Bioware picked for ME2.
>>90248Wait, they're not getting ME1?...that's retarded.
>>90248Maybe they'll make some kind of custom editor so you can change that stuff before they start the game.
>>90254Didn't it used to have that? I remember there was an old Penny Arcade post where Tycho mentioned the game once had the ability to choose stuff like that but BioWare cut it for whatever dumb reason.
>>90255Yeah, I thought it had something like that too. Guess not, though. I found that post, and apparently that feature was just for the testing build. http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/1/25/
During A House Divided, you get the option cripple the heretic population, or convert them. I recently read though, the Heretics are only five percent of the total Geth population. If that's true, then what's the point of converting them?
>my face when the only 360 game of the year gets ported to the PS3, and /v/ shits itself.
>>902635 percent of a planet fuckton full of robots from a few hundred years ago that has been growing since then is...a fuck ton of Robots. the rest of the 95% are probably still in the expanse living their collective lives trying and attempting to decide if they should communicating with their forebears.
>>90263It's an ideological choice, not a practical one. On the one hand, you've got brainwashing of five percent of the Geth, where you change their personalities and thought processes on a fundamental level. On the other hand, you've got straight murder of five percent of the Geth. It comes down to what Shepard (and by extension the player) would prefer to do in response to what the Heretics had done in the past and were planning to do.
Oh christ. Okay, I'm not usually one for reading fanfiction, but this story is quite possibly one of the greatest and most subtly hilarious things I've read in a long time.http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5724140/1/Rock_SteadyChapter 6 is when the sheer ridiculousness of it started to hit me. So yeah, read it.
>>90270 Depends on how you view the choices. Though the Heretics chose to be used as tools by Sovereign reprogramming them back into the fold of the Geth is probably a bigger insult to them then outright destruction. They're basically becoming tools to the Geth collective by taking away their consensus choice for joining back to them. It’s an underhanded statement of saying the Geth are easier to manage without free will which was why they fought their rebellion outside of self preservation. Do the reprogrammed Heretics even think for themselves if you save them?
>>90345Since Legion says that the reason the Heretics are Heretics is because of a mathematical error in their reasoning, I don't consider reprogramming them to be anything worse than curing a group of schizophrenics (i.e. "fixing" rather than "converting"). I see mathematics as something objective, and correcting a mistake in a textbook doesn't mean one is brainwashing its readers to a different point of view -- at least in any sense of the word "brainwashing" that has the connotations we attach to it.
The main problem you guys all have is that you think of the Geth as people.
>>90362Well, we're not thinking of them as Terminators.
>>90353So it's more like deprogramming a cult member than Optimus Primal reformatting someone...Makes sense.
>>90353 Then why didn't he reach an instant full consensus to reprogram them if it was just a simple number change?
>>90362This. Legion itself says it's downright racist to apply even benign anthropomorphism to other sapient beings.
So I'm replaying the Derelict Reaper level, right? And I get to the log where the guy's tripping his shit and going on about how gods can die, but they still dream. So the music syncs up just right with his statements and with every forced syllable you hear the horns blare, and it's starting to weird me out, so I start to move slowly to the right. And he gets right to the part where he says "He warps reality just by existing," and I clip with the corner of one of the boxes, and all of a sudden SEIZURING MAP as Shepard's body magically goes limp. And when it finally stops, I'm standing for some reason right on top of the computer screen that was displaying the log, and when I turn the camera, magically Tali and Grunt are behind me in thin air. It was creepy as shit perfectly timed glitch.
>>90398Shame that you couldn't have captured that on video.
Trying to romance Jack with my current Shepard. I feel like such a creeper, but that could be attributed to the fact that my Commander looks like a platinum-haired renegade Terminator who's all like "I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS, JACK". She's so tsundere uguu.
>>89927I will never look at this game the same way, not sure I agree with all the finer details, but it would explain a lot. I could really see this happening.
>>90494S-stupid Shepard.... It's not like I like you or anything... F---fuck off....>>90503It's kind of personal fanon for me.... the kind that doesn't really impact the story. Just like imagining that in Avatar Katara and Aang kiss to make the Cave of Two Lovers crystals glow and in Final Fantasy VIII Rinoa is actually Ultimecia (think about how the heck Ultimecia obtained Griever).
>>90503My theory is that too much manipulation of Dark Matter via Biotics and Eezo fucks with the galaxy causing the stars to flare up.
YOU GUYSYOU GUYS YOU GUYSI JUST HAD THE BEST DREAM EVERMASS EFFECTTHE PLAY.
>>905252nd one has a lot to back it up actually.
>>90548DIBS ON WREX'S ROLE
>>90548How were the production values?
>>90563Insincere Endorsement: It was the best play on the Citadel.
>>90561>>90563It was beautiful. All the props and the costumes look like they were done by the Jim Henson guys.Patrick Stewart was Shepard.Wrex sounded like Doctor Claw.Sovereign was a forty-five foot long animatronic and sounded like Optmius Prime after huffing Sulfur Hexaflouride.Joker was Pipes!, complete with swearing.Captain Anderson was William Shatner.Tali was Dr. Nurse, and she was beautifulSaren was Doom, for some reason.Liara was Bea, which doesn't even make sense.Or...was Nurse Liara, and Bea Tali...?HrmmAnd an Elcor narrated.
>>90567>Dr. Nurse>TaliYES. SUDDENLY, WHORES. THOUSANDS OF THEM. ALL FOR DOCTOR NURSE.
>>90567>Optimus Prime>Sulfur HexaflourideWhat the fuck would that sound like?We need a soundfag.
>>90569And I will be the first.
>>90567>Patrick Stewart was ShepardI'LL TAKE TWENTY TICKETS.
>>90567I NEED THIS TO HAPPEN.
Seriously, anyone here have any form of scriptwriting skill?
>>90570Probably something like this: http://www.zshare.net/audio/79553009011d6967/I don't know the formulas for the effect of pressure changes on pitch, so I just picked a low value and went with it.
>>90582That would be me. Helped write two three act plays for my school and happen to own several second or third edition screenplays of old Coward and Simon plays.If you want a musical, however, you're on your own.
>>90567All of Joker's lines are replaced with swearing. Nobody notices."YOU SON OF A BADGERCUNT APETIT DICKMOUSE.""Good, glad to hear it."
>>90584MASS EFFECT PUPPETS: THE MUSICAL: ON ICE!
>>90588LIVE! >>90567Can Swedish Chef be Mess Sergeant Gardner?
I saw this picture on /tg/...then I played with the color. I kind of wish this was how Asari really looked like.
>>90609You know I can actually see those three guys in the bar take on a Hangover type quest to find out what Asari really look like... I might write that.
>>90615Oh my GOD, please please please do
>>90624Hmmm this sound like something I should brush up on my Lovecraft for. To my audio books!!
>>90626PFFFTThere's audio books?!Dude! Mediafire those, please!Also, going to sleep in an hour. Will inform of possible progress on play. If wanted.
This should have been easy. And yet, seven hours later, I'm amused and frustrated.I've made a very dark gray faced Shepard wearing a white/texture-less beret using the 360 version of the Gibbed save editor.On the bright side, I've made Legion available for play even before recruiting Mordin, and my Shepard has TIM's eyes.
>>90642Hell, that shit only takes 40 minutes if you know where to find the mo-->360 version...well goddamn.
>>90634I would but my upload speed is horrible. There is still a well seeded Torrent of them though.
>>90644Yeeeeaaaahhh. This *should* have been fast and easy.Well now I'm back at it after a short three hour nap. With enough time I'll get what I want.
Ohhhh its all coming together, I might even have the first bit ready by tonight.
>>90634I just so happens to have a link:http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d5d4060453db88065bf1f12f1ff3f30a4f21e713c6a23dd0d9ecd7d091ba63d2
>>90669"You...Bill..are full of waste.." Tandis stumbled over and collapsed in a chair next to his coworker. Bill took another swig of the bottle of brandy they had picked up in the bar at the bartenders recommendation, "Its shit Tandis, I'm full of shit..no you are full of shit..no..Who was full of shit again?"Xagen chuckled at the both of them. "you are both stinking drunk...will I have to be the sober one?" Bill snorted gagging on the bottle, "No Xagen, because you went past sober two hours ago with that tenth belly shot." The Turian laughed, "It was worth it..where is the stripper anyway?" Bill waved a hand lazy in the air, "I dunno, this is your party Tandis, where did you put her? The Salarian wobbled his head toward Bill, "I left her in the bedroom after that round of..Beer Pong was it?Bill grinned, "Oh Yea, heh" Xagen shook his head. "It was just wrong to get her into that game Bill, you never explained the rules." Bill took a swig of the brandy again. "She should have asked and she was capa..capabble..er able to stop anytime she wanted."
>>90674This isn't Lovecraft.This isn't Lovecraft at all.
>>90676Oh, sorry, thought you asked about the ME books.
>>90677I'll take that.>>90675I am F5ing like the fist of an angry god. I demand more. This is win.
>>90675Xagen sighed. "Still it wasn't right Bill, you should know that an Asari in this stage of life are no more than teenagers."Bill rolled over letting the bottle roll onto the floor. "Yea, well its not like it will be that deter..deti...do anything bad to her or anything...she'll just sleep it off, like I'm doing right now." Xagen perked up for a moment when he heard something coming from the bedroom. "Tandis, you did say she was asleep, right?"Tandis gave a wobbly nod. "Yea, no current illumination, or whatever that human saying is."Xagen stumbled to his feet and approached the door. "Then why do I someone moving around in there?" Tandis got to his feet and slugged over to the bedroom door and leaned against the frame. "Its more than that." Tandis said becoming immediately sober. "I think she's... chanting."
Hey, Astro, I finally got around to reading that fic you found. Good god I could not stop laughing once I realized the sheer insanity of it all.
>>90682Xagen quietly approached the door control and tripped the manual release and quietly slid the the door open a crack and peered in. Tandis quietly peered into the gap from his side and caught a small squeak before it left his throat. The Asari stripper was on top of the bed undulating back in forth across the bed. This wasn't what either of them had seen back in the bar this was something totally unnatural for something supposedly humanoid.Xagen slid the door closed. "Yea I've never seen Asari move like that." Xagen said as he tapped the door pad into the locked position.Tandis nodded. "Do you think we should report her?"Xagen shook his head. "Report her for what? Oh officer this Asari stripper my coworker hired is making odd body movements not normal to people with a internal skeleton!"Tandis looked back at the door. "Well what do you suggest we do then?" Xagen looked at the unconscious Bill. "I say we haul him up and get the heck out of here and as far away from whatever is going on in there." Just then there was a sound of rending metal as the bedroom doors were ripped inward and purple tentacles gripped tentacle gripped either side of the door frame. Xagen and Tandis stepped back as the transformed stripper stepped out of the bedroom black eyes burning with energy. Xagen kicked bill who stirred and looked up over the top of the couch. "JANIRIS REQUIRES A SACRIFICE!!!" The Former stripper intoned as she approached.And all bill could think to say as Xagen and Tandis dragged him from the room was. "I am not paying extra for this."
Brogans before hogans.I really like the idea of Wrex going all Hughes on Grunt when the events of ME are over and Grunt joins his clan. Wrex shares with anyone within his shotgun's range the vids he recorded of his adorable adopted son destroying a thresher maw on foot and isn't he just precious he could tear you apart with his pinkies.
>>90687Gonna take these mugs further down the hole to the Old Ones of the Asari. I'll work something out.
>>90685Excellent. I'm glad someone checked it out.
>>90703Chapter 11 is easily the funniest fucking thing I have ever read ever, and it's not even trying to be funny, it's just natural conversation.
>>90703I just finished reading it. Holy crap, that was just fantastic. Especially because their Shepard is exactly how I play mine...
Hey Nurse, when's your birthday?I wanna buy you something retarded.
>>90711Great, now I want to read it.
>>90737October 20th. Why. What are you getting me. It better not be a dead rat in a bouquet of roses, Thirteen, I swear.
>>90737>>90743OH OH!! How about that Tauntaun sleeping bag!! Or just take a look at any of the Japans online shops. They have a large number of just odd things.
>>90743A Hanar plushie? With a little Spectre slip-on suit?
>>90745there is a girl that drops by /toy/ now and then that is damn fine at crochet. She could whip you up one of good size for about 30-40 bucks. I think she has a DeviantArt account but I forget her name. ask around /toy/ and you'll probably see some of the Pokemon and Mario stuff she's done.
>>90745You know, Thirteen, if you're trying to win my hand in marriage? It's working, you amazing bastard. This one approves intensely.
>>90748I WANT TO GIVE THE BRIDE AWAY.Or possibly be the flower girl.
>>90752>>90748Oooh! Oooh! Can I be the crazy uncle that gives her away then unloads a few rounds into the roof?
>>90747You mean 4/toy/?
>>90756yea
This is just...ouch.I realized that the main plot of ME2 wasn't quite as sharp as the original, but the more this guy talks about it...the more I see some of the more glaring plot holes of the story. While I don't agree with all his points (I think it was kind of the point that Shepard was a brick so that the players could transpose themselves onto him), he makes a lot of good ones. Like, really good ones. Like, "I don't know why the hell nobody caught these before" points. While it doesn't diminish my love for the game, it does make me sad. :(What do you guys think (of this one video, or of the whole series) ?
>>90776I'm just going to write my thoughts out as I watch the video(s).>Shepard was resurrected; it's meaninglessI would argue that because Bioware wanted Shepard to be working for a controversial benefactor (Cerberus) they needed to give a reason for why Shepard would even start there to begin with. Being brought back to life seems like a good way to start... As in,Cerberus: Now that I have your attention by raising you from the dead, take a look at this horrible threat to humanity and the rest of the galaxy. Shepard: I don't trust you.Cerberus: We're paying for your shit, plus you get a new ship.Shepard: ....You drive a hard bargain.Something like that. I just don't think Cerberus could have convinced Shepard to work with them otherwise. Why would he/she if they still have the Alliance/Council to fall back on?>No spirituality in the resurrectionEh. In ME1 you never really saw much introspection from Shepard, mainly because the character can be played several different ways. Also, musing about that sort of stuff seems boring. I feel like players would be upset if Bioware tried to impose certain canon beliefs or spiritual feelings onto the main character.>Reviving Shepard is unbelievable, scientificallyI will begrudgingly give him this point. I can believe that Cerberus could have rebuilt Shepard physically, but I don't really think they could have kept the memories in tact. However, I'm perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief for the sake of a story.
So I finally got my Shepard!Sorry about the shitty quality. I have no idea how to use my sister's camera.
>>90777 cont'd..>Cerberus was stupid for spending all that cash on reviving ShepardTIM's a crazy passionate motherfucker. Shepard delivers results, has unique experience with the Reapers, etc etc... plus plot armor. What would you rather play? A game of TIM commanding armies from his star command post, or a game where you're a badass space marine commanding a small but elite squad, kicking ass and taking names all the way?I'm going to pause in my comments to point out that this guy's production values are really irritating. The background music is at an equal volume to his voice, which is like NPR times 11 I CAN HEAR THE CLICKING OF YOUR TONGUE AND IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY>Wilson didn't have sufficient motivation for betrayal...Really? Did we need an extra thirty minutes explaining why somebody was a power hungry maniac who wanted to fuck up the project? >ME2 should have been about the impact of being resurrected from the dead while taking on a race of alien bugs, not about building an elite team togetherOPINIONS.Okay, I'm going to have to ragequit. Between the irritating voice/music and his complaints, I can't stand listening anymore. He can be displeased with the game all he wants, I like it and I was entertained. It's a game, not a Monet.
>>90778Say goodbye to that awesome scar going down his cheek and jaw when you import him. :(
>>90776 This guy seems to be forgetting two things when it comes to video games:1. Half of his suggestions (such as explaining more of the reason for why Wilson betrayed Cerberus, sending out hundreds of probes and listening devices and waiting for the collector's ship to show up somewhere, etc) would work great for a different format of entertainment, such as a novel, but in a video game, a third-person action shooter game no less, it would be ludicrisly BORING. The writers have to keep the game moving or risk losing the player's interest.And 2. He seems to forget that games are developed based on time and money. Bioware only had a limited window and resources to develop. This is something that he and Yahtzee(even though I love Zero Punctuation) have in common: they often make suggestions that would be ridulously expensive and time-consuming to make. Though I do admit that some of the suicide mission's design choices are strange, developing something as well-integrated as he suggested would take just as long as the game itself took!But whatever. Opinions and all that.
>>90776>Mass Effect 2 has one of the worst plots in the history of gaming sequels.Video closed.
>>90342Okay, I finally finished reading this. I started and stopped because at first I couldn't understand why you were thinking it was so amusing.It is funny, and I'll admit that I was pleasantly surprised. But somehow I was expecting this to turn into badfic. Or am I just tired and stupid and missed something?
>>90783You didn't miss much. He is obviously intelligent, but everything he brings up you can say "Yeah, but you're forgetting..." or "No, that's not quite right..." to.Good attempt, but his execution in critiquing this game is prettty whack.
>>90785Is it that video where he expects a logical reason behind Shepard somehow being brought back to life even though he should have burned up in the atmosphere when falling onto the planet? Cause I watched that for like a few minutes and just got annoyed at how he was expecting everything to have a logical scientific reason behind everything.
oh god what
Since we're on the MASS EFFECT 2 HAS A SHITTY MAIN STORY track:http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004
>>90801 Okay yeah, I guess maybe some kind of Illusive Man introduction in the first game could have helped the opening have some more impact for everyone. Then again it fits that not so much is floating around your head what with just coming back from the dead and Cerberus still being a half clandestine operation. Not to mention the reviewer SHOULD HAVE READ THE FUCKING BOOKS![/canonsnob] TIM shouldn't have brought up you dicking over his plans in the first game as he wanted Shepard exactly as Shepard was; also he’s likely used to the general failure rate of most of his operatives in their little schemes by now. The player however should have been given the chance to confront TIM if they were Sole Survivor for the exact same reasons as why nothing much should have been brought up. Super solider waking up from the dead, walking away from the first life treating situation in two years to suddenly meet the person who fucked over their life and gave them severe trauma gloating about you've been back thanks to them should have gotten a slightly different response then other backgrounds. But it doesn't really matter when those are some of the only flaws in the entire game.
>>90810>Not to mention the reviewer SHOULD HAVE READ THE FUCKING BOOKS![/canonsnob]
>>90810It's a review of the game, not the books./deal with it
>>90813 >>90814 I just did with the post.
I was barely cognizant of Cerberus when I played the first game; I'd see the name here and there in the text logs of an optional mission, but it always felt like it was a side note, like they just needed some name, any name, to serve as the generic evil bad corporation. I liked how the second game treated them. I think Cerberus is more interesting having a questionable morality with good intentions and an overeagerness to begin projects that could end badly than it ever was when it was a shadowy, barely explained group that was the go-to excuse for anything that went wrong.I mean, yes, the turnaround between the two attitudes was surprising, but I don't think it's hard to explain. You were only ever aware of Cerberus in the first game when they fucked up. The second game is when you see them managing to pull off something good.
None of this justifies the fact that you can only choose to give the Collector base to Cerberus or destroy it, rather than, oh say, GIVE IT TO THE FUCKING ALLIANCE.
>>90817Well that partly makes sense if the Alliance wouldn't do jack shit for you at any time in the game. "Just listen to me an I can explain what is going on.""Sorry, but as long as you are working with THEM I cannot do anything for you.""But we need to work together on this.""Sorry, I think you should go now." I mean REALLY even the time I had Ash in the Romanced column she still wouldn't listen to me!!! Also the fact they all agreed to just tack this up as "Geth Invasion" and won't listen to reason otherwise gives Shep little choice on that matter. Personally I think I'll give the Alliance a big FUCK YOU in round three since they decided to act like Pricks to the Savior of the Universe. That might be bad writing in itself but it puts his limited choices in context.
Screw the Alliance and the Council and Cerberus! When Mass Effect 3 rolls around I'm going to have an army of Krogan, Rachni, Geth, and Quarians!
>>90847There once was a man named John Shepard who was King of the Space Pirates. He had fame, power, and wealth beyond your wildest dreams. Before he disappeared into The Void to fight Reapers he left these words broadcasting from a beacon. "My fortune is yours for the taking, but you have to find it first. I left everything I own in One Piece." Ever since, pirates from all over the Galaxy set sail for the Terminus Systems and Beyond, searching for One Piece, the treasure that would make their dreams come true.
>>90760Well then.After spending roughly a day on /toy/, I remember why I left 4Chan in the first place.So, unless the crochet femanon happens to be Mindy Y./anenemyairship, Hanar plushie's on hold.
>>90853 Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Mordin! Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Tali!Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Garrus!
>>90854WAIT ONE MINUTEI forgot about Etsy.Two seconds.Nurse, email me. We need to discuss the finer points of your Blasto.
>>90864FOUND HER!!!!! http://jeshopkinson.deviantart.com/
>>90865I remember she made a Mr.Saturn and tracked her down that way
>>90801 ...Well SHIT. After reading through all the parts of this I'm kind of forced to agree: Mass Effect 2 has a shitty story.But just the main story. I still love the characters and side-story shit (but then this guy seems to as well).
>>90883its what happens with trilogies sometimes
So I decided to go through and play the game with the DLC on insanity mode. Just got to the part where you fight the praetorian for the first time and I totally forgot that it fucking CRASHES on me when he fires that fucking lightning at me. Tired looking online for a fix and apparently you just have to turn your brightness to -2, so I tried that and it still fucking crashes.I mad.
>>90911Wait, what? Maybe I don't want the PC version....
>>90915It apparently only happens to people with Vista/7 that uses an nVida card.
>>90911Man, the Praetorian is annoying enough without something like that.
>>90916>nVidaWELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM
>>90942ur mom
Well then.I just killed Ashley, and witnessed the Prothean's distress call.It's two thirty in the morning, I have slept maybe two hours in the last two days, and now I am wide fucking awake.Thank you Bioware. I just love narcolepsy.
>>90968Hahahaha, that shit was terrifying when I first saw it...actually, about the same time of night that you are in right now.
>>90968>Killed off AshleyEnjoy your boring Kaiden
>>90987Boring>Bitch
>>90989trudat
>>90987I would rather have a boring bro than a loudmouthed xenophobic bitch.
>>90989See, I actually liked Ashley. I was all ready to hate her on the Citadel (DO YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT IN FRONT OF THE ELCOR AMBASSADOR, ASH?) but then going through her romance, she's actually pretty awesome.Then Mass Effect 2 happened.
>>91014Well... in ME2 she's given several honors from other Citadel races, postmortem, and basically turned into a martyr.That's why I'd rather keep Ash around.
>>91019Also, she WANTS you to leave her behind and I am not in the business of giving Ash anything she wants
Well, to be perfectly honest with you guys...My finger...slipped.I meant to save Ashley.
>>91021 I find her death and words being misinterpreted by turians better then Kaden becoming funds towards the Ascension Project. Cerberus doesn't need any more money in their pockets.
>>90989>>91014>>91019>>91021
>>91032One of these days you're just going to have to accept nobody likes Ashley but you.
>>91033Me and at least two other people in this thread.And most everyone outside of here that I know who's played Mass Effect.
>>91034That can't be a lot then.But seriously, people gotta dump their hate somewhere. Williams is providing a service to the team which she is capable of handling. Imagine if people devoted all their hate to Garrus. He couldn't deal.
>>91035I like both humans, but of all the people to let die, Ashley's sort of the only choice for me. Not much need for an assault rifle tank when I already am one most of the time, and it's always funner letting your romantic interest die. Makes Shepard's decisions a lot more painful.
So can we talk some NPC love, rather than squad member hate?Because I found my new favorite NPC.
>>91034That's funny. Most people I know couldn't stand Ashley.
>>91043Then perhaps we are each of us suffering from perception bias based on who our friends are, and should stop assuming that our positions are the generally-held one unless polling data becomes available.>>91039This is awesome.
>>91039Fun fact I missed when I first saw this. This is the same dance Shepard tries to pull (and fails) on the dancing asari during Samara's loyalty mission. I'm kind of pissed we don't get to see Shepard do the full dance with a non-shitty camera angle.
The priiizzzeeee
I never tire of GARrus jokes. They're as bad as Chuck Norris but much more witty. My favorites are: -Garrus Vakarian can calibrate a gun so well, it needs a cigarette afterward.-Garrus chose to get hit by that gunship. He was tired of looking so damn good.-They named the bridge Archangel held on Omega after his real name once he left. They had to rename it later, unfortunately; no one crosses Garrus Vakarian and lives.-Garrus Vakarian's favorite store on the Citadel is himself. He dishes out pain at unbelievable prices.-Morinth once had a mind-meld with Garrus Vakarian. She complained he never called her back.-On Tuchanka, Garrus got twenty-four mating requests. There were also seven for his sniper rifle.
>>91033I can see why people might dislike Ash, but the whole idea that she's part of some kind of highly religious pro-human extremist is just stupid. She might be a pro-human bigot at the start, but she lightens up considerably once your mission progresses (much like Presley, by the way). Hell, one of the final sidequest in the original Mass Effect concerns Terra Firma, a group of pro-human extremists, lobbying for a seat in the Alliance parliament and Ashley downright tells them they're being retarded if she's in your party at the time. Her religious views are mentioned, like, twice in the whole game and are easily avoidable if you choose the right conversation options. Besides, I don't really see how it matters. Freedom of religion, and all that jazz. That said, I'm still totally ditching Ash for Jack in Mass Effect 3.
>>91055These are groan-worthy but I love them. Why haven't I seen any of these before? I must be lurking the wrong forums.
I'm Commander Professor and this is my favorite comic on the Citadel.
>>91059Well most people don't progress their relationship with Ashley. When I first played I know I didn't, largely because of her attitude early on. She was a huuuuuuuuge bitch."YOU SHOULDN'T LET DEM ALIENS ON OUR SHIP CUZ I DON TRUSS EM"Now I hate on her because it's fucking hilarious. Video related.
And Asshole Shepard is the BEST SHEPARD.
I want to play this game so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.But my computer can't handle ittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.;__________________________;
>>91084>"YOU SHOULDN'T LET DEM ALIENS ON OUR SHIP CUZ I DON TRUSS EM" Yeah, it's really bitchy to be hesitant to about allowing members of other species that you don't even know very well to have free access to your species' top secret research project ship.:I
>>91085dear bioware why is shephard so static its creepy plz lern 2 animate
>>91103To be fair, she kind of tagged along. I understand Priesly giving Shepard that kind of shit. He's stationed on the Normandy. Williams? She's lucky to be included for the mission.
>>91103The quarian and the krogan are perfectly understandable, I get that it's only been maybe 30 years since the First Contact War, and they both have a long-standing prejudiced view from other aliens. But Garrus' species BUILT THAT FUCKING SHIP WITH THE HUMANS, AND HE'S A GOVERNMENTAL WORKER FOR THE CITADEL.It's really my only beef with her. That one important detail makes her a little bigoted no matter what dialogue choices you make. At least you can help change her mind (sort of, since she's indifferent rather than disgusted) as time goes on, but when you first meet her? BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH.
>>91108>PrieslyOh my god lapse in spelling. That should be PRESSLY.
>>91103>Some random bitch that Shepard saved from certain death questioning him and those he trusts just because they aren't human, including Garrus, who belongs to the species that helped the humans build the Normandy.
>>91110My problem with Ashley? This.
>>91110He's also from a species that was pretty recently trying to genocide humanity, so. You know. Things work out.
I don't hate Ashely but I didn't really care for her either. Also no one tells me how to run my ship. But all that aside does anyone else find Shepard's cheapness amusing? Such as stealing a single credit.
>>91156You saying you don't pick up pennies you see on the ground?
>>91159I, for one, hate pennies. But Shepard being a skinflint is hilarious.
>>91159Actually, no I don't. With this I just find it really amusing that Shepard spends time to crack the safes in the most secure facilities in the galaxy with thousands of credits inside and open wallets he finds with one credit inside.
>>91159I don't even own any pennies. They are the most useless things in the world.
I just realized something.Keeping the Base may be a good thing.Think about it. The Council's doing everything in their power to dissuade rumors or theories concerning what the fuck Sovereign is, and they still don't believe you, after all your evidence given. Or lack thereof.You not only have the "birthing cradle" of new Reapers, but, if memory serves space stations don't have bottomless pits. There is a dead human-reaper in the sub-basement.You have all the proof the Council needs to warrant galaxy-wide weaponization.Also, I really hope ME3 explores the northwest, or at least an organic-spacefaring race. It needs to be done.
>>91270I really hate how there was no, "I'm going to turn this into the council option."
>>91270I wouldn't be surprised if the Council tried to spin it as a human threat (especially that annoying finger quoting Turian). I mean, you've got a base only a human ship can access, a crew carrying weapons made by the Collectors, and a gigantic human-shaped death machine sitting around. There's enough material for someone prone to conspiracy theories to get entirely the wrong idea.
>>91278The council would spin it as a Cerberus plot to manipulate the galaxy, and that it was actually Cerberus who was abducting and murdering the colonists as part of a freak science project.Either way, I strongly regret not killing the council.Best Mass Effect Endings? Play a paragon in the first game, a "nice" renegade in the second. When I say "nice" of course I mean don't torture Veetor and keep Kal'Reeger alive.
>>91295I always die a little bit inside when I let Kal help me fight...and then he dies because I'm a slow poke.
>>91278"THE REAPERS ARE REAL, AND THE HUMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM! SEND THE CITADEL FORCES TO BLOW UP EARTH!"
>>91321 If they did that they would only unite Humanity under Cerberus.
>especially that annoying finger quoting TurianSpeaking of which...
>>91321One small problem with that.Asari/Salarian/Turian forces, possibly with support from the Hanar, Elcor and Batarians, because, fuck, Batarians, versus the "sleeping giant" of humanity, Quarians, Rachni, Krogan, and the Geth. Who do you think would win that war? And canon or not, humanity can be a notoriously dirty and incredibly vindictive fighter.Asteroid X-51? Drop or blow up a few moons in retaliation.A Mass Relay too much of a strategic liability? Drag the fucker into a sun.
>>91363Don't only humans have massive carrier class ships that allow them to sidestep some regualtions on size?
>>91368After the battle of the Citadel, the Geth likely do as well.
Question.How do I screengrab this page? With spoilers removed?
>>91370Tediously. You'd have to screencap multiple times so you can hover over every spoiler. Or, alternately, just highlight the spoilered text in each cap.
>>91370...Why do you want to save this? It's not /that/ interesting.
>>91375Eh. I thought it'd be nice to do.
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