We all know Joker SHOULD be killed, but is it possible to do it in a way that Batman fans will agree with?
The only way I'd accept it is if the Joker went out while killing Darkseid.
No, there isn't. People will always want more Joker. He shouldn't be killed, from an out-of-canon perspective.
I think what we need is more quality Batman comics that don't involve super villains to remove this stupid notion that super criminals are constantly running amok in Gotham and break out of Arkham as soon as Batman puts them in.
What if...what we know of the Joker was actually a defect in reality that just existed? So Joker got killed, but the defect immediately affected someone else and a new Joker, pretty much identical in personality to the last, but with a different body, popped up immediately following the previous one's death?
I had pretty much theorized that the Joker was immortal as a side effect of the chemical bath he had taken.He can still be injured and put down for a while, but he can never ever die, even if you destroy parts of his brain it all heals, slowly but surely he gets back on his feet.It could be used as an explanation as to why sometimes his skull seems so grossly misshapen, or he seems less insane on one occasion over another.
Batman discover that the pool of chemicals in which he falled was something like a Lazarus pit, and that Gotham itself is a place where those Lazarus pit can be created. Joker, after falling into one has been able to recreate it and has been using it for years.Or...Batman, the world greatest detective discovering who was Joker before falling in the chemical's pool...I don't think i like this two ideas for a canon point but i think they could be pretty cool ideas for some Elseworlds
>>83448What if you're just like, really fucking high, and like there was a guitar that played words. Think about it.
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THIS IS NOW A THREAD TO DISCUSS DEATHS BEFITTING OF VILLAINS AND HEROESJoker I've always wanted beaten to Death by a Robin...Yet ANOTHER reason I love Damian.
>>83478Robins should be above murderous revenge.
>>83453Pretty much this. It also furthers the idea within Batman specifically that some things are immortal because they're ideals. Batman will never die because their will always be someone to replace the last one alive, and indirectly because of that, the insane and depraved criminals of Gotham will continue to exist there.
Honestly, it should be a situation where Batman has a choice whether to save the Joker, or to save someone that Joker put in danger.Of course, he could probably save them both, what with him being Batman, but chooses to simply not save Joker. Maybe make Joker look really betrayed as he plummets to his death.Of course, Batman, whenever he has a chance to save the Joker, always does it, and it's awful.
Okay, how about this.Batman sits in his cave, contemplating whether or not he should do this, and goes through all the crimes that have been escalating over the years(you know, back when he didn't kill people) and finally decides that he must kill him, and does. Things are much better for awhile now that Batman is killing his enemies, some of the more sane foes go into hiding for awhile. However a gang pops up emulating the joker's crimes and it gets more popular.
I actually think an interesting way to kill the joker is to have him be sentenced to death, and have it carried out. Have the story follow the men and women of the GCPD as they deal with people trying to break the Joker out before the execution, maybe have Batman show up once briefly to help out when the situation goes all pear-shaped, but otherwise just run it as a straight execution by the state. It'd be different than what we normally see, at the very least (with "shock" deaths or having the villain go down fighting the hero).Oh, one thing that might be interesting is have him tell an actual funny joke before he's executed, causing the witnesses to crack up laughing.
>>83572I like this.
>>83572I like this a lot better than Batman doing it. Only trouble is that public executions typically take months or years to carry out after the death sentence is passed. But that's kind of nit-picking it.
>>83583> Only trouble is that public executions typically take months or years to carry out after the death sentence is passed. But that's kind of nit-picking it.No, not really.
>>83572Yeah, I thought something like that would be appropriate. In fact, I sort of hope that's how they'll write the Joker out of the next Batman movie. It would make sense an avoid the tendency of Batman arresting supervillains being rendered pointless by them just instantly escaping.>>83583There have been Batman stories that took place over a long time (the Long Halloween was over a year long), nor for that matter does that mean there will be plot relevant events happening the entire time.
>>83572 What would you call it? Gallows Humor?
>>83583But that's a good thing, they could drag it out and make it an event.
>>83622They already did this.Joker was (later found out to be falsely) diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, so he Jokerized just about every DC villain, who went on a rampage, as a "final farewell". tl;dr read: Nightwing beat the Joker to death after believing he killed Robin III/Tim Drake. Batman revived the Joker with CPR.It was terrible.
>>83478SS - impaled on one of her own love crystalsIndigo - gives her life for the sake of the rest of her corps, later found out to be unnecessarySW - old age, at home, surrounded by his friends.Hal - already had his perfect death but they had to go bring him back.Sinestro - ???Larfleeze - poisoned foodAtrocitus - clever to the head from behind by a manhunter on Ryut.
I'd be happy if he died. Everything you can do with him has already been done, I think more could be done with his death.
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>>83722Honestly, as much as I love Bruce and love the way that he's coming back (CAVEMEN PIRATES DETECTIVES YEAH!), I'm also really impressed by the situation he's left behind: Batman gone, with the extended Batfamily working to fill in the gap. It makes me wonder what it would be like if comic book characters (except for the immortal ones) aged and died as the years passed, with the only consistent thing being their legacies.
>>83753It'd be like JSA
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>>83902Superfacepalm almost makes me want.>Byrne...almost.>>83572WIN.
>>83572Yeah. This is a very good idea.I'll also accept falling on his own petard or DKR.
>>83572 This. With interviews from various heroes and villans and normals on how they felt about the situation - Nightwing, Red Robin, Harley Quinn, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Lex Luthor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Jim and Barbara Gordon, and a random guy on the street (who turns out to be Jason Todd). But Batman refuses to comment on the situation, no matter how much they push him.
>>83986 What is a hero without a villain?
>>83992The more important question is, how will this impact train island?
>>83992A successful hero? Batman's entire goal is to get Gotham to the point where they don't need him anymore. Well, that was his original goal. Now that he's regularly saving the world, I'm not so sure he'd quit.To be honest, if the Joker died, I think Batman would be disheartened. Not by the loss of his most formidable adversary, but by the fact that death was the only way he could have been stopped. One of my favorite Batman: TAS episodes was the one where an Arkham Asylum guard turned vigilante and tried to lock up all the inmates and throw away the key. Batman told him off about treating the prisoners with no hope that they could be cured.
>>84014since when does batman have a goal? I thought that fighting criminals is a weird need he has due to childhood trauma.
>>84030Well, that's the more cynical interpretation of the character.