This is more game related (and I know that this might be kinda hard to pull off in game) is that I wish EVERY PERSON you met who could have a social link could join your party and become a fighter.

I mean think about it. You could switch out certain players for others, maybe each one would have a special move that'd really help in certain dungeons... I dunno. It just seems like a really good idea.

Carrying on discussion about Kanji and sexuality from previous thread:

>>70416
I'm actually replaying the game right now and post-dungeon, there's a few implications that he's hot for Yukiko too (makes sense, grew up around her and stuff). There's the nosebleed at the camp out, the fact that he seems pretty interested in going to the same baths that Yukiko spends time in, stuff like that. So I'm still saying he's bi (if only because I want to daaaaate hiiiiiim in P4: the Golden).

oh and I'll resume image dumping later. Plus4's being weird about letting me post images right now.

>>70423
It is a nice thought, but it would have ruined the storyline of the game because of two people: Nanako and Dojima. Nanako is too young to even manifest her Shadow (and therefore too young to face herself and get her Persona), and Dojima would flip his shit when he realized how big of a secret his nephew and friends have been hiding (since it is an integral part of the murder investigation).

Also, for each S.Link to be a fighter, do you mean that they're just there for hand-to-hand, or do you mean they each have their own Personas, too? Because as much as I love the Persona boss fights, that is a LOT of boss fights. Also, think of the different types of people you have as non-fighting S.Links. As much as I love Old Lady Death (Kuroda), what is her special attack going to be, hitting 'em upside the head with her purse?

Wait, no, I'd actually want to see that, it'd be hilarious.

Damnitsomuch, now I want to think up all the special attacks for the non-fighting S.Links, and then combo attacks that they could do with other fighters (oh gods, a Dojima-Kanji dual attack, how much ass would that kick?!) *headdesk*

>>70427

I think it was more of a generic idea for what they could do with Future Persona games.

>>70427
>>70423
Someone wrote this fanfic where he proposed a way for your S. Links to help you out in battle via "Support Persona":

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4982177/1/Solo_Performance

>Support Personas: Came from an idea of mine where the Social Links outside of your Party have their own respective Personas. These cannot be chosen to fight, nor can they be used in fusion. Rather, depending on their level, they provide bonuses to your equipped Persona if it is of the same Arcana, including attacks and stat increases. These could also exceed the eight move limit.

The fic itself is a story centering around Ayane's dungeon and conflict with her shadow, even establishing something of a cause for her being in the TV world. It's not a bad idea in and of itself, it's done pretty well in the story, but you'd be hard pressed to find an excuse to get everyone into the other side except maybe in December when the fog starts to cross over.

NEW OPENING IS DOPE AS SHIT

>>70434
This would actually be a really cool idea. I've had ideas of certain characters like Ai or Daisuke having their own quests/roles in battle. (It stemmed from leveling up their S. Links and NOT seeing the "___'s determination has been enhanced in battle!" message) Something like every so often they'd randomly cast a buff/debuff on the team/enemy.

New op is FUCKING SWAG!

Rest of the episode was pretty much perfect in every way.

Someone finally did it:

P4MV: No Homo (Outro)

It's even got a twist ending for some reason.

>>70451
Newest episode is excellent! Cannot wait for part two!

I am also diggin' the new op. Enjoying all the music, really.

I'd just like to add, at first when I saw how they were dividing up the "dungeon adventure episodes" and the "slice of life social link episodes" I was worried. I thought: "Oh noes, phoned in, half assed episode central: here we come"

Except no.

See this show gets it. It understands the appeal of character interaction from the game and finds good ways to represent it in an anime form. Although different in tone, the social link episodes are just as fun and charming as the dungeon episodes... Maybe more so depending on your tastes (that's a big opinion though)

How does this show get better and better every episode?!? 14 was soooo goooo.

dose social links!

dat fishing!

FOX!

Everything about 14 was amazing. Seeing Death in a yukata might have been my favorite.

But actually, I think I like 13 more just for all the Nanako screen time.

>Next Scent
>Dat school trip
>Oh god, the hotel...

Episode 14 is amazing. I love episodes that show the same events through two different POVs, and Eps 13 & 14 hit it out of the park. I didn't even mind that they deviated from several of the storylines a little bit for the S.Link people, and usually that would bug me.

Also, did anybody else catch this? Pic is of one of the daycare kids; King Moron Jr., maybe? (wait, wouldn't that make him Prince Moron?)

>>70791
Ha ha, kid! Your dad's dead!

>>70791
Minioka?

>>70791
How did that guy pass on his genes to a willing woman? It had to be either be some sort of rape or he's some sort of bastard of medical science like a donor sperm baby.

>>70846
Who knows, maybe... maybe Morooka is a beast in the sack?

>>70846
>>70848
As an overweight lady myself, even I have to say that Minioka's/Prince Moron's mom is a beast of an entirely different sort. DO NOT WANT. I'll screencap a pic of her for reference if y'all want.

>>70854
No, I remember her well enough. She was like a more bloated, saggier version of Kashiwagi and that's saying something.

>>70858
So they're ugly fetishists, who in their union of bitter paradox hatred for each other wished to create an obnoxious and hideous spite spawn that would carry their regressive tendencies into the future. I hope king moron's fate becomes a family curse.

>>70864
The Morookas are like the Belmonts. Only instead of fighting Dracula, they fight all that is good in the world.

The school trip episode is available, and it is MAGNIFICENT. Literally made my day a better experience overall. Wish I had time to screencap the hell out of it.

>>70938
I am having trouble finding a subtitled copy of that episode. Where do you go for your subs?

>>71000
http://www.theanimenetwork.com/Anime/Persona-4/Watch

Has all the eps subtitled.

16 has really awesome Kanji moments, glad to see the series spotlighting him. The ending was silly.

>>71181
Funny coincidence, the BGM of Naoto's dungeon is the 16th track on the game's OST.

>>71181
Every time this show lets Kanji have more than three lines, he is instantaneously badass and awesome instead of being just comedy relief.

Also, his mom is so tiny in comparison to him, and she's cute for an older lady...like, if she and Nanako ever ganged up on Kanji and told him to do something, he'd be powerless in the face of the adorableness. I just started giggling when she was like "no yelling in the hospital" with a smile on her face and he goes all quiet and blushes.

Episode 17 is out, and I had to screencap as I watched, because the reaction faces were pretty great this time around.

First two are going to be the girls' reactions to Yu turning old.
Next two are Kanji reacting to Naoto.
Last one is Kanji talking to Yu, but it was so cute to see him blush, I couldn't help it.

Rise Hearts Yu...literally!

So...this happens after Naoto apologizes for being scared during her abduction. I couldn't get a good screencap of blushy Naoto, sorry!

...and this happens after she puts on her Persona glasses for the first time.

And finally, this is what happens when Kanji decides to take inspiration from Naoto facing herself, and take action on his own behalf so that he can be okay with himself and all of his issues. Also, this is what happens when he explains why he's telling all of this to Yu.

Basically, this is the episode where Kanji goes OMG FEELINGS!! And I am perfectly okay with that.

>>71470
Man, after watching this episode, I gotta say, this thing missed out on a lot of extra footage:
>>70452

Very much enjoying this show. Because of how Ep. 11 went, I thought that was the end of the show, and was sorely disappointed that it ended so poorly.

Then I watch Ep 12 and all is forgiven.

>>71468
>I couldn't get a good screencap of blushy Naoto, sorry!
>couldn't get a good screencap of blushy Naoto

SACRILEGE!!!

Oh man, that school trip episode. I don't think an anime has ever had me laughing so hard.

"Fill it up, Straight."

I think I'm heartless. I found the latest episode to be cloying and irritating rather than endearing and heartwarming. On the plus side, OMGOMGOMG dat Next Scent.

>>71715
To me ep 18 wasn't cloying per se, but I have been wondering how the hell Yu was going to get his S.Link with his uncle. This episode was about him connecting with his family, because even though he was doing real well getting along with Nanako, he didn't really have a good, deep connection with Dojima yet, except to live in the same house.

I actually cheered when Yu started calling Dojima on his bullshit, neglectful parenting. I loved doing this particular S.Link in game just because of telling Dojima off and helping him get his head out of his ass, so that he could see what he was doing to Nanako by putting his work first.

>Haven't watched this series in a while
>Decide to catch up
>Episode 15
I have officially said goodbye to my heterosexuality.

I can't believe how much personality this series has injected into the P4 main character. I really love it.

I totally forgot about the outcome of the pageant(s). Best outcome is best.

Episode 19 was fantastic! I only took 3 screencaps that were good enough to post, but man did I wish I had more (Kanji as M. Monroe has to be my fave crossdressing cosplay ever).

Picture: That awkward moment when Yosuke realizes maybe he isn't completely straight...

I had to do a group shot of the boys in drag; this is right after Kuma/Teddy wins, and it was a decent enough pic of all of their looks, though Yosuke kinda gets shortchanged by being behind people a bit. I love that they had the MC with the pink wig, but I don't think the afro was big enough; I remember that fucking wig was HUGE in the game.

A giant group shot, though I call it "Blackmail Forever", because the boys are still in drag, but the girls aren't in their bathing suits, and this pic is from Rise to Yu, which may imply that Rise has ALL the pics from the fair. Also, I have a distinct feeling that Naoto put that sign in front of Kuma/Teddy's face on purpose because he's the one who instigated the bathing suit competition in the first place.

All the subs I can find have an audio delay and skip a bunch of times so that you can't just have another window synced up in the background while you watch the sub. How did you guys watch it? Or have you only seen the raws?

>>71961
Yes, a lot of pics that no one but rise wanted to take and do terrible things while looking at them.

HNNNG!!!

>>71965
Tiny Asian Girlfriend~

>>71966
Savlonic : Tiny Japanese Girl

>>71959
>>71940
Everyone's gay for Narukami. It's perfectly natural.

>>71965
Thanks for posting that screencap; I could never seem to get a good one of her, even though she was in the episode a lot. I always preferred his Sun link with Ayane (the musician) rather than Yumi (the actress); the difference being that Yumi is already good, but is emotionally damaged so she starts slacking, and Ayane wants to be good, but she lacks the confidence to prove to her group that she's improved even after she meets MC.

Plus, it was adorable and awesome to see Ayane get so mad in-game whenever somebody mistook her for a little kid/middle school student, even when she was wearing the high school uniform.

>>71981
I agree on all fronts. If you like Ayane, you might enjoy this. It's one of the handful of Ayane fanfics ever made and a damn good one at that:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4982177/1/Solo_Performance

You might remember it from the previous thread, but if you haven't encountered it before, enjoy.

Well I didnt expect to see HIM! Well played anime, well played.

Goodbye Persona 4: The Animation.

It was nice while it lasted.

I TAKE IT BACK. I TAKE IT ALL BACK. hnnnnnnnnnnnnngh. worth it. worth 24 episodes of QUALITY. so fucking worth it.

The anime was surprisingly true to the game...save for the revelation of the secret ending...but that belongs to the people who invested 70+ hrs to beat the game and discover the real villain.

>>73340
To be far, that was stupid in the original game, like they made the whole game and then realized they'd made a SMT game where you didn't kill a god, so they spliced in a bit at the start and end.

>>73340
Come August, we'll be getting the final episode with said True End. So there.

>>73341
Stupid? I loved it. So many NPC, players never expect much from some of them and reversing it in this game. Awesome stuff!

So, having watched the series, how ruined is the game for me? I'm still going to play it, but I'd like to know if the various twists are the same or if I can still have some anticipation.

>>73357
The show does go with the basic plot lines damn near to the letter, so if you've watched the show, congrats, you've been spoiled (except for the true ending, of course, that you need to get to yourself).

I will say that the show doesn't go into mid-level bosses, and the dungeons are a LOT more expansive than what the show makes them out to be (it's a long game for a reason; if you don't level up your characters enough, your ass WILL be handed to you when you get to the next dungeon). There are some subtle differences in some of the story lines for the S.Links, and they didn't go into any of the NPC stuff or anything about the stray cats that happens in town; talk to all the NPCs, because their dialogue changes with the seasons, if I remember right.

>>73357
Just enjoy squinting at Adachi the entire time and knowing what a crafty bastard he really is.

Am I the only person who cried during the snow scene? I tried so hard not to cry during the last bit of Episode 22, and then throughout most of 23, but that scene, man, that scene!
>"Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry..."
>DAT SCENE
>FFFUUUUUUU- ALL OF MY TEARS

Finally got the time to watch all the shows I've missed due to RL BS, so I watched from episode 20 to the end. EVERYTHING IS PERSONA AND NOTHING HURTS.

I kinda dig the fact that (show spoiler) Death was somehow fighting FOR Adachi . I also kinda dig that they didn't spoil the "true" ending of the game in the series, just the "good" ending, so that people who want to play the game now can have something new to discover. (game spoiler) Along with the Margaret secret fight, which is a BITCH-AND-A-HALF to get through, and you don't even get decent loot from it. At least when you fight Death, he gives you ultimate weapons for each of your players when you defeat him, and he's easier to defeat!

>>73394
You are not alone, but I teared up well before then. I also cried the first time I played the game around that part of the plot.

And so the day is saved,

Thanks to,

Satan?

>>73666
Its a little odd... because technically Lucifer is a good dude in the SMT-verse overall, but Satan is a different entity... maybe?

Then again, for simplicity, they could be blending the concepts together? Maybe?

So, Naoto's getting her own spin-off novel.

Toughts?

>>74925
Naoto is best waifu, so proceed.

>>74925

Tumblr, in all their misguided social justice fury, is in a rage at Atlus because they interpret Naoto's longer hair as a sign of her connecting with her femininity instead as continuing to identify as male.

All I have to say is.
>Implying people with long hair can't be manly.

On the flip side, the first thing I noticed about the new Naoto is the suit. unf.

>>74927
I thought a big part of her character arc was that she wasn't identifying as a man because that's how she saw herself necessarily, but because she thought she had to in order to make it in her chosen profession. Did I misinterpret?

Because if I didn't, her maintaining a male gender is not being true to herself, which goes against the whole idea of transgenderism in the first place.

>>74931

Nope, you didn't misinterpret at all. A bunch of people just went 'girl dressed up as a boy? TRANS TRANS TRANS TRANS" without actually thinking about WHY she was dressing as a boy.

>>74933
"BUT HER SHADOW-" is a distortion of her own internal conflicts mixed with the way society views her, the same is true for nearly all of your other party members. Just like Yukiko isn't a shallow princess and Rise isn't a stripper.

>>74935
And how Kanji's not gay, right?

>>74935
And how Kanji's not gay, right?

>>74936
More like how Kanji would willingly be her love-slave for all eternity.

>>74927

That ain't Tumblr. I've seen that same argument on Livejournal back before Tumblr was really big (before the anime, even.) I once saw somebody rant about how Naoto was a bad trans character because of this or that on LJ, and other people basically had to step in and make the same arguments.

I can understand some of the rage/dispair, since Atlus sucks with other trans characters (they're usually just punchlines, like in Catherine and I think Persona 3. I only barely got number 3, no clue yet) and good trans character are pretty much Unicorns in terms of rarity in media in general, not just games, and I do think it's skeevy that you can get her in a school uniform just for you during the Christmas date because it just seems to make her uncomfortable (what, the suit ain't good enough? Bullshit. Suit Naoto is best Naoto) but...dressing as a boy because of gender identity as opposed to acceptance issues just ain't Naoto. It doesn't feel like that's her deal at all.

>>74939

She needs to tackle him down and they need to make 1,000 babies. She'll go off to work and he'll stop her before she's out the door to give her a hand-made lunch box and he's got a frilly apron (that's also black and has a skull on it.)

I'm ambivalent to pretty much any other ship in Persona 4, but Kanji and Naoto is pretty much my OTP, I don't even care what that makes me.

>>74941
Too bad Kanji and Naoto still willingly submit to Yu at the drop of a hat. It's not even an open door policy for him, he just shows up and -- oh hey, you want a foursome Chain attack with Rise? Sure thing buddy.

>>74941

If there was a trans character in Persona 3, I don't remember them.

>>74947

OH NO WAIT I do remember now. That WAS pretty lamentable.

I don't remember any trans character in P3, but then again I did hate a vast majority of the cast so it's possible I just forgot.

>>74949

On the beach. It seems like the boys finally managed to pick up a girl when...

>>74933
reminds me of how some folks on 4Chan started a shitstorm over how Dragon Kid in Tiger and Bunny MUST be trans because she's a tomboy and doesn't like girly things
you could make a vague case for some of the studio's comments on her after the show finished, but there's nothing going on in the show that suggests it either way
I mean I've always been stereotypically mannish as hell but I love being the sex I was born as and have never considered myself male just because I don't really enjoy doing the things other women tell me I'm supposed to be enjoying, but enough with my personal butthurt

people need to quit with the damn armchair sociologising and jumping to conclusions about characters so they can feel all smart and progressive because they're not really helping anyone but themselves, besides the whole deal with Naoto pretending to be a guy is because she's thinks masculinity is more socially acceptable so it's an issue of misogyny and female empowerment, not transgenderism

Anyone else think Naoto would have looked slammin in a fedora or trilby?

>>74954
No, the hat she has is best hat.

>>74936
Exactly.

>>74952
I love it when SJA's complain that Naoto's tale of trans* issues was so poorly handled.

Because.

That's not what her issues were about.

At all.

So they're going to cram the 27 episode anime (that is, it includes the "True Ending") into a 90 minute film.

Do you think they can eke out an adequate narrative in that amount of time?

>>75671

Doubt it. Look at how well that worked out for .Hack//G.U.

Persona 4 The Animation On Demand Promo

>Chie's voice

That aside, I will be watching the hell out of this.

>>77771
Is she supposed to be a New Yorker understudy or something?

What's odd, though, is that Japanese VAs might actually take on a regional Japanese dialect/accent, but the vast majority of us sub-watching folk won't have a single clue as to them having an "accent"--to our brains all Japanese is the same accent. Sometimes they try to translate the accent as well as the words, especially if it's a somewhat big part of the overall character. If Chie has an accent in Japanese, perhaps that's why the VA is doing that voice here.

Another example of this is Hand Maid May.

>>77775
Dubs do that all the time. The most heinous of which is the whole Osaka = Texas, which doesn't even make sense. The closest any dub I know of came to getting THAT right was when Sailor Moon made Naru sound Brooklyn.

A much bigger problem would be all the different modes of speaking the Japanese language has. There are whole slews of pronouns that only get used by specific people depending on their social status and personality. How the hell do you translate that? Most dubs don't even seem to bother. Just translate the lines literally and have everyone sound like they're reading a drama school script.

>>77776
>The most heinous of which is the whole Osaka = Texas, which doesn't even make sense.
I've heard the logic is that Osakans are known for being sort of larger-than-life (Texan), metropolitan (Houston-area Texan), and often treated as dumb or at least lackadaisical (any Southerner, really, but Texan works here), so a Texas accent is the closest to having the same stereotypes as Osakans. It doesn't really have the money-obsessed stereotype that Japanese assocaite with Osakans, but otherwise it's about as good a fit as you're likely to find. Better than not acknowledging it at all, especially with characters where it's brought up in canon, like Azumanga Daioh for example.

>>77779
The other problem being that sometimes, us baka gaijin have no idea just how those Japanese accents sound to a Japanese person.

It's like listening to Rammstein when you don't know German. To us it's HARDCORE. To them it's hilarious.

>>77781
It's Hardlarious.

>>77781
It's Hardlarious.

>>77779
But all of those sterotypes also fit a Brooklyn accent! They're loud, but working class so uncouth as fuck, but still defined by their urbanness, and often their desire to stop being a working class stiff.

Boston or Chicago could also work (see ANY American sitcom, really)... And would continue to be less baffling than someone coming in going "YE HA, Y'all! Ah'm from Osaka!"

>>77812
The closest I've seen to decent justification of a southern accent was that who-the-fuck-were-those-guys group who dubbed Mai Hime and made Shizuru sound texan because she's from Kyoto.

Kyoto's like...southern...right?

>>77771
While I am super disappointed that the OVAs from the game are not dubbing the anime, I do have to say I don't automatically hate the dub voices...so that's something.

I'd have to listen to more dialogue, but it almost sounds like they're trying to give Chie a countryside drawl (not necessarily southern, as I was from a little hick town in Michigan and there were many people who where "townies" that never really went to Ann Arbor or any of the cities nearby, so they had a country drawl in the way they spoke).

If they have Kanji and Yukio speak in the same kind of country drawl, while the people from the city (Yosuke, Yu/MC, Naoto, Rise - yeah she's from Inaba, but if she's famous she probably had a diction coach to get rid of the drawl) and Teddie have different accents (or no accent as the case may be), then I'd be fine with it. It's a stylistic choice to further differentiate those who live in the country from those that have lived in the city, and would actually make the group look/sound more diverse as a result.

Though I am fully willing to admit, if Yukiko has a country belle accent and Kanji sounds like one o' them Duke boys, I may never stop laughing. And I just REALLY want to hear how the VA who takes over Naoto, just because I want to hear how they try to pull it off.

>>77833
I just want to hear natural-sounding accents.

So far, every time there's a prominent accent in an English language dub, it's so exaggerated and obviously fake it just distracts me from what they're actually saying.

Chie's new english VA's pretty good.

Blu-Ray package is abysmal though. There's not even an alternative language track.

Does anyone know any artists who draw Persona4 fan art and may be willing to do commissions.

I'm looking to have an illustration of all 4 female protagonists from Persona 4 (Chie, Yukiko, Rise, and Naoto) in various altered versions of Izanami's dress while sporting her silver-white hair color and crimson eyes, stemming from this old idea I had of Izanami hijacking the body of your love interest (if any) to mess with you, harkening back to the old Izanagi/Izanami legened.

>>78426
Ai-Wa completed the illustration I commissioned her to do.

I got the idea for it a little ways after finishing the game a few years ago wherein I thought it would be interesting if Izanami would temporarily take control of Yu/Souji's love interest to mess with him, hammering the (well-done) subtle implications of the Izanagi/Izanami myth in further by forcing him to fight said love interest and a fascimile persona resembling Izanagi in a difficult single battle. You'd have had the option to run, like Izanagi did in the legend, but doing so would permanently reverse that Social Link. If you didn't have a love interest, she possessed Nanako instead.

What do you think of it?

>>78525
And if you romanced everyone you had to fight them all and somehow have to explain away why they all got possessed?

>>78525
Why is Rise a magical girl?

>>78549
Why is the peppy, cheerful cute pop star a sparkly magical girl, hmm I wonder.

So apparently, Persona 3 is gonna be getting a movie, and the MC is rumored to be named Gettarou Yamada. Thoughts?

>>79916
>Gettarou Yamada
stupid sounding as fuck, and it was confirmed on Twitter as a placeholder anyway
I always thought the manga names were really fitting to the character designs anyway, so I'll be sad to see "Minato Arisato" changed

>kanji in op

feels. all of them.

After watching the story mode for P4:A for Yosuke, Yu, and Yukiko (y's...), i've decided that while original Chie is superior, the new Chie is managable. However Labrys is the greatest fucking thing ever and nothing you say will convince me otherwise. She's brilliant and she better show up in future games. Also the P3 characters interacting with P4 characters nearly had me in tears I was so excited just by the prospect of it. I didn't realize how much I missed the P3 cast until I saw them again sigh.

Gettarou Yamada is a dumb name by the way but I'm still stoked for the movie. Not... sure how they'll fit all of P3 into a single movie but... whatever I guess.

>>78525
This is an AMAZING idea seriously dude well done!

>>79933

> the new Chie is managable

Seriously. She went from sounding 30 to sounding 13.

That's not really an improvement or a step down. It's just kinda... different.

>>79934
I loved Chie's original voice, it sounded so natural and goofy. Her inflections and tones were really genuine.

>>79954

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

Chie's new voice is slowly growing on me, it's just taking a while because her initial lines sound like she's making a voice, not just naturally speaking. She sounded a bit better in P4A, maybe that was recorded afterward.

Speaking of, has anybody heard how Kusanagi-Naoto sounds? (Question, if Mary Elizabeth McGlynn now voices Naoto in the animation, does she still voice Kashiwagi?)

>>79961
I dunno how she sounds but all I know is this:

Johnny Yong Bosch still plays Adachi... and Yu. This means that episode 25 will basically be JYB talking to himself and that is literally the most hilarious thing ive ever heard in my entire life

>>79967

You know. I like there being a bit of symmetry there...

since you can argue that Adachi is sort of Yu's shadow that we never saw. Think about it. He's a womanizing asshole who conquers 'bitches'. What else would the shadow of what is basically a dating game protagonist be?

>>79970
except we do see yu's shadow in the anime

also its just gonna be confusing! i love jyb but seriously hes got two voices and he didnt use the second one for yu.

I have been told to play Persona because the Giant Bomb guys and many of my friends really enjoyed it. I will probably play 4 because I do not have anything newer than a PS2 and because Persona 3 is $70 on Amazon and I cannot afford it.

I am completely uninformed about the series and about visual novels (although I did read some of that Dangan Ronpa LP and it breaks my heart that I'll never get to play it). Fill me in, please?

>>79973
Persona really isn't a VN at all, it's just a JRPG where you happen to be able to fuck people (offscreen). It's like the Witcher but with anime instead of stupid boobsball cards.

If you play P4 then that's probably all you're going to play since 3 will feel like a beta version in every single way while 1 and 2 are almost completely different games.

>>79973
>If you play P4 then that's probably all you're going to play since 3 will feel like a beta version in every single way

This. P3 is, in my opinion, the superior game overall, but P4 made a lot of gameplay changes that make it run so much smoother and less FUCKING ALLY AI WHY DID YOU STOP HEALING YOU'VE DISRUPTED MY STUNLOCK WHEN I WAS ONE TURN AWAY FROM KILLING THE BOSSSSSSSS

But you should seriously play P3, and if you're going to, you should play it before P4. I played it vanilla, but the apparently improved FES version still goes for twenty dollars on amazon, as does the PSP version, which is also apparently improved (and lets you play as a girl).

>>79989
You can get FES on PSN for $10

>>79971

>i love jyb but seriously hes got two voices and he didnt use the second one for yu.

Assuming we're talking about the same voice, I can only thank heaven for that.

>>79993
>>79989
Aaah, okay. So the FES version is the same story, just with stuff fixed? It's really cheap on Amazon right now...I haven't played The Witcher, sadly. My RPG experience is limited to Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, and the first Dark Cloud. And a little of Star Ocean III.

>>79974
I don't have a PS3, unfortunately, and my PSP is broken-- I got someone to hack in a couple games for me, but I can't play UMD's on it because it's second or third-hand.

>>79999

Yeah, exactly. I think there may be some tweaking around the edges of some of the social links but on the whole it's just the same game with the rough edges smoothed out. P3P is changed a bit more, and let's you play as a girl which changes social links and dialogue but not the plot.

>>79999

FES also adds a sequel chapter that takes place after the epilogue of the true ending of the original game. It ended up being canon to the story, so yeah, don't buy the original vanilla P3.

P3P is basically P3, with it's gameplay tweaked to play like P4, and the addition of playing as a girl (with the loss of the FES epilogue.) I have both, personally.

Kudos to Naoto's VA for actually trying to sound like a dude in the anime dub.

>>80006

Is there a video comparison?

imo, P3P is the best version of 3 because there's no fucking Ally AI and Mitsuru's Marin Fucking Karin (seriously fuck you bitch). Of course, if you don't have a PSP, then yeah P3:FES is your best option. Ive said this a few times before but P3 has the better plot and P4 has the better characters. Persona 3's cast can be... sort of insufferable.

(They are so much cooler and more likable in Persona 4: Arena tho holy crap. Mitsuru, Akihiko, Aigis AND Fuuka are all way better. Fuuka is especially helped by the fact that she is now voiced by WENDEE FUCKING LEE how fucking awesome is that)

WELP

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-07/persona-4-kishi-directs-devil-survivor-2-game-tv-anime

>>80085
>bottom left
Accelerator is that you

>>80085
>bottom left
Accelerator is that you

>>80046

Gotta agree, at least gameplay-wise. You lose out on some things, though. The PSP can't render out the 3D overworld you normally inhabit, opting instead for an isometric point and click kind of approach (much easier for finding stuff, though, like the goddamn persimmon tree) and with no 3D models, that means all of the story is told like a visual novel (or dating sim...which is more appropriate, now that I think of it.) That includes any animated cutscenes, the only exception I can think of so far (I'm not that far into the game) was the near the beginning when the protagonist first gets Orpheus, which was done with the in-game battle graphics instead.

>>80046
To be fair, my PSP could probably download it off the internet (it's the only way I can use it at all, it's at least thirdhand and won't play UMD's anymore, but I don't have any money), but if I end up liking it, I'd feel guilty torrenting it.

What else should I know? I'm a complete newbie to the series.

>>80109

It's also available off PSN, though it's 20 bucks. Sucks, it went on sale a few weeks ago for only ten.

>>80136
Again, I'm sorry, but PSN isn't even an option right now. I can't even afford a PS3.

>>80144

As in PSN via the PSP, you should be able to download and play it on either a PSP or a Vita.

>>80147
Ahh, okay. I can see if it can run internet. I was handed the PSP by a then-friend, with no real instructions, and he was downloading the games for me from some torrenting site.

>>80109
Play P3P and then play P4 (I know you say youre broke, but someday you SHOULD play P4: The Golden since it is about 10,000x better than the original P4). Try to avoid all spoilers regarding both games if at all possible. Play Persona 2 since it looks like the franchise is going back to the villains from that game-- P2:Innocent Sin Portable is on the PSN as well and it's never been available in america. Don't bother playing P1 it's utter garbage.

>>80231
Except future Adolph and Naoto seriously worst spoiler I've ever seen.

I don't know if the Golden really is better than P4 or not. The two big additions I'm aware of are a bad ending where you can nonsensically side with the villain and a new character who sounds like she literally walked out of a fanfic.

But there's probably gameplay improvements and I can't really comment on those.

>>80245
lol rodyle opinions Except there's waaaay more than that as well. Two extra months of gameplay time, extended S.Link stuff, costumes (aaah<3), combo attacks, new personas, two new slinks (aaaaaaa), and just a bunch of stuff and its all lovely

>>80249
I stand corrected then.

>>80249
But it does add an extra character that never needed to be there, and Nurse's opinion is entirely subjective due to her baby boy fetish (aka: Adachi)

>>80251
1) dorky psycho fetish thank you
2) Yeah but other new character has a dungeon as well and its hard as balls and thus awesome. (plus the persona you get from maxing out her s.link is sweet as fuck)

>>80252
Interesting. Man, I sort of want it but the fact that both Kanji and Naoto look different makes me not for the implications it has. Also Kanji looks retarded as hell now.

>>80257
I could deal with Kanji if he had a better haircut.

>>80263
my headcanon is just that his mom made him dress up since his senpai was back in town and she wanted him to look respectable and handsome

>>80257
i agree with you on kanji, but can i ask what your problem with Naoto's is? Is it because she looks more feminine?

>>80265

I'm gonna kinda admit that also kinda bothers me a bit. Kinda from a sort of "now they're normal!" kind of perspective. Though I keep thinking to myself that if Kanji shaved one side of his head, he'd look like a fashion designer of some type.

Also, I briefly fooled myself into thinking she was wearing his bullet necklace, why do I do these things to myself?

>>80266
She is totally wearing his necklace.

Nurse what Jones said about their looks. I can understand why they'd change but I think the detective coat was a pretty cool thing about her. It was less that she looks more like that but that she changed herself that much.

>>80268
I'm a little bummed that she wasn't wearing the coat in the Epilogue, but it's like May or something, right? It'd be a little warm! ah i just want them to stay as badass as they were when they were young forever gosh

>>80267
It doesn't look like the same one at all.

>>80273
It's an awesome coat. I can't see why she wouldn't always wear it.

Pictures of new Naoto and Kanji anywhere?

>>80291

Sorry, I thought somebody would have helped ya out by now.

Kanji: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5s9ieL9Mp1qm5chko1_500.jpg

Best I was able to get of Naoto: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5x8bwjJFX1qjzf95o1_500.jpg

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