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67922 No. 67922
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game

Wait...huh?
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>> No. 67923
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67923
yes
>> No. 67924
Good God. I used to joke about this, but didn't think it'd actually happen.
>> No. 67925
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67925
Thought at first that it would use all those characters seen in the print in the game, making Hussie keep all of them alive for $$$$$

But it seems like it's up in the air for what it'll be about exactly. It's called an adventure game, but it would be nice if it made use of all the comprehensive mechanics that Sburb has, instead of being a point and click one.

Still though, the nature of Sburb makes it very flexible to whatever OC someone has, and translating that to game form would be possible, so on the spectrum of make-your-own-fanfic to basically one massive flash update, I'd much prefer a tighter game.

Also, I love Hussie. These god tier rewards are the best.
>> No. 67926
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67926
This scares me more than anything else. Pray that we never see this image deviate from the site in even the slightest way.
>> No. 67927
>>67926

See >>67925
>> No. 67928
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67928
Ooh.
>> No. 67929
So that's the reason for that "you're become an adult website" thing. Making sure people don't think it's just a dumb ad.
>> No. 67930
>>67926
i want to see this 0 of ten left by the end of the week.

also want one of each of these.>>67925
>>67928
>> No. 67931
I hope whoever pledges God Tier makes Herpus Derpus canon
>> No. 67933
You sold out, Hussie. Weren't the books good enough for everyone? At least you can actually read those. Who wants to stare at a computer screen all day? NOBODY.
>> No. 67935
700000 seems like a lot of money to make a dating sim B)
>> No. 67936
>>67930
How would that work if you want >>67928>>67925 to happen?

Anyway it's already 10/10.

Hahaahahaa.
>> No. 67937
>>67936
No, no. That's the number remaining. 0/10 would indicate that all of those prizes have been taken.
>> No. 67938
>>67937
yeah this.

I want 10 fantrolls to die in one panal, anther one too last two and another to be the most important character in homestuck
>> No. 67939
>>67938
>someone plonks down a million for the "most important character" prize
>fantrolls dying panel
>second tier fantrolls dying panel
>third panel, only one fantroll remains
>removes disguise
>it's gamzee
>> No. 67940
>>67938
>It's a lime blood.
>> No. 67941
>>67939
He's even a sparkle troll on the inside.
>> No. 67942
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67942
Can we talk about perfection?
>> No. 67943
>>67942

She's staring right into my soul

Sweet jesus
>> No. 67944
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67944
AS IT WAS FORETOLD,
SO SHALL IT BE!

>> No. 67946
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67946
Fuck donating to this. The fandom needs to make their own campaign, so this lady can have her dream come true.
>> No. 67948
>>67942

Really, Anon?

Really?
>> No. 67952
the homestuck adventure game: or how hussie made a million dollars in a week.
>> No. 67953
>>67952
It's still awaiting the last $125,000, but yeah, it is the 14th most-funded games-related project on Kickstarter at the mo. If it succeeds, then it means more people want a Homestuck game than a Leisure Suit Larry game...which isn't terribly hard to believe, but yeah.
>> No. 67954
>>67952
More like 4 days
>> No. 67955
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67955
I dont even have a comment
>> No. 67957
So, any guesses what the game will actually be about?

I mean, a human SBURB session is probably obviously going to be involved, but I don't think just playing a "game" of SBURB lends itself very well to the adventure game genre, plus anyone who're read the comic would already know the plot, so there's likely going to be some sort of twist to it.

I also wonder if Hussie's going to incorporate trolls in some way. I mean they've proven to be ridiculously popular, but I don't see how he'd incorporate them, canon-wise.

Another question would be whether the game will be set before, during or after the comic, or indeed if such a question even makes sense to ask, considering the temporal mechanics of the Homestuck universe.
>> No. 67958
>>67953
The kicker, I think, is that the average donation is something like $96 at this point, and it's gone UP since the last time I looked.
Which basically means that more people have thrown MORE money at it than have thrown less between now and last night when I checked it last.
>> No. 67960
>>67955
Apparently, a soul portrait costs like $4000
>> No. 67961
well sburb was a game that was sold in the beta session wasn't it? the game could just be another set of kids who managed to all get in. Obviously the true course of sburb never does go smooth and shit hits several fans, which is more than enough for an adventure game I think. Character swaps and instigation of time shenanigans could make things more interesting.

As for the trolls, I don't think they could be joined in, as in the A2 session, only Karkat and co actually had the game.
>> No. 67962
>>67958
As of RIGHT NOW (the time I am writing this, is has probably changed since then because there are SO MANY FUCKING DONATORS), the average donation is 94.13$.

It's been up for about a day and around this time is when I first heard about it, so I'm going to assume it's been around for 24 hours. That's [b]268 people donating 25, 285$ per hour[b].

4 people donating 421$ per MINUTE.
>> No. 67963
>>67962
Also, from the time of me taking the screenshot of the numbers I used to posting this took 8 minutes. In that short span of time it increased almost 6000$. This is fucking insane. I don't even understand it.
>> No. 67964
>>67961
Well, Meenah was the one who found the Frog Temple in A1. Being a filthy rich princess and all, there's always the possibility that she made it available to the people.

And otherwise there's still the very real possibility of Kanaya resurrecting the race, which could be how Hussie plans to show us all those canon fantrolls anyway.
>> No. 67965
>>67957
it'll be a new race in a universe made by the trolls and humans. They'll play the game all while being harassed by these weird human aliens and troll aliens.

Also i bet whatever the main gameplay is like that hussie will add a bunch of minigames that are entirely different. like how the comic keeps switching it up once in a while with games and animation and banner panels and such.
>> No. 67967
>>67964
>she made it available to the people.
Except think about who it is you're talking about here.

>>67965
It would be cool to have mini-games for using the sylladex like how Jade had a bunch of different game-based ones, but I can see that getting tedious awfully fast.
>> No. 67968
attn: three people have donated $5k
one has donated $10k

i can't wait to meet this new dead fantroll
>> No. 67969
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67969
Guys, the deadline is closing in and I'm not sure the project is going to make it. :(
>> No. 67970
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67970
...someone actually fucking did it.
>> No. 67972
>>67970

No.

Please.

I never wanted this.
>> No. 67973
>>67972
Chill, man. The Huss has a plan.
>> No. 67974
>>67970
let us all take a moment to Hail Gay Satan
>> No. 67975
Crowd scene. Beforus. Is to the con-going part of the fandom as Kankri is to SJWs. Ends with large-scale destruction.
Mark my fucking words.
>> No. 67976
Can't wait to see the fantroll unceremoniously killed off in one panel.
>> No. 67981
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67981
False alarm, people, false alarm.
>> No. 67982
>>67981
Not gonna be the last one.
And at least one of them is going to stick.
>> No. 67983
three people already plonked down $5k, not too hard to imagine someone (or a group effort maybe?) doubling that.
>> No. 67984
I'd fork over $10,000 for a really well made homestuck adventure rpg (much like river city ransom involving the present story.
The last fucking thing homestuck needs is more characters especially if it involves a completely new cast.

Oh, and only if it utilizes the music from the albums.
Only then would it be worth giving a fuck.
>> No. 67985
>>67984
>The last fucking thing homestuck needs is more characters
Eh.
There is a difference between adding characters to an existing story and creating a new story with new characters.
>> No. 67986
>>67985
yeah, right now I'm construing the project as "new story set in the homestuck cosmology".

which, honestly, is about what I'd be looking for from an adventure game. trying to adapt the canon story to an automated interactive format is basically a suicide mission - it'd be a herculean effort very unlikely to actually result in a satisfactory product.
>> No. 67987
>>67986
Hussie concurs.
>It'll be based on Homestuck, of course. But this doesn't mean it'll be anything close to a direct adaptation. That would be impossible! Homestuck is a pretty huge story.
>Something that draws from the elements already established in the vast Homestuck universe, applied more selectively to a shorter, self-contained story.
>I'll use elements from Homestuck that I think will be interesting to expand upon in something new, likely with minimal relevance to Homestuck comic canon.
>> No. 67988
>>67984
>This new work had better not have any new material in it because I'm afraid of trying new things and I hate anything that I don't already know that I like!

With that mentality, Hussie would still be doing stories in the old Problem Sleuth format.
>> No. 67989
Hopefully there will be some references to the Homestuck story we know, in the form if history logs, mythologies, and such. There is endless room for new sessions and species if cherubs and that one alternate session album have anything to say about it.
>> No. 67990
>>67988
Let me rephrase that.
All I want is an adventure game featuring the present characters, I've wanted this since I began reading the comic.
I'm just not as interested in a game based around the homestuck universe that doesn't include the characters I've already grown so attached to and invested myself in.
>> No. 67994
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67994
We're doing it, man.
>> No. 67998
>>67994
We're MAKEN IT HAPEN.
>> No. 68024
>>67942
These are the only things I want, and good god, I want them with such a burning desire and herculean need.

But can I justify plunking down $200 suckers just for two shirts....? And I guess everything else, but I really honest to god do not give any shits about this game.
>> No. 68027
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68027
>>67981
Check again.
>> No. 68032
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68032
I want to kiss and punch this fucker. If only I was houmustakku waifu material, they could be my sugar daddy/momma
>> No. 68040
>>68032
hahahah one of the 5000 guys upgraded to the 10000

dont wuss out guy!!!
>> No. 68047
>>68040

You sure? There's still two $5000 dollar backers. But I suppose either way that's another ten grand in about two mouse clicks. I wish I had that kinda money to blow on things I actually like, never mind the most vague video game outline ever.
>> No. 68050
>>68047
yeah, there used to be three 5000 guys but one of them dispersed when the 10000 came. Also he guy said thats what he did in the kickstarter comments.
>> No. 68051
>>68050

Oh, right. Well good to know he could scrape together another five thousand dollars in such short notice.
>> No. 68057
>>68051
Soldier in Afghanistan.
>> No. 68058
Is it truly worth it to own a physical copy? I've kind of been wondering if I should honestly shell out $80.
This feels really insignificant to say after the guy who took the 10,000+ plunge.
>> No. 68084
>>68058
everyone's marginal utility per dollar is different, man. don't be ashamed to be careful with your money.

(900k is linux support so I might be donating soon.)
>> No. 68090
>Mac version at $800,000
Setting the bar so low is a terrible mistake. It shouldn't be discussed at all until they've DOUBLED their original goal. You have to start over from scratch when making something for Mac and literally every person in the world who pays money for games is running Windows anyway.

>Linux version is even on the list
Fuck it, Hussie just has no idea what he's doing. This project will be a total failure.
>> No. 68095
>>68090
Right, it's not like he did anything like consult a game developer on what would be possible for the game and oh wait
>> No. 68096
>>68090

dum
>> No. 68103
For some reason my initial presumption on seeing "Homestuck Adventure Game" was that it was some kind of tabletop game. So yeah, just saying that should exist too probably.

Also, what if someone has a fan thing that isn't a troll? I wouldn't lay down the several thousand or more to get it, but I'm curious.
>> No. 68107
>>68103
And then I realized the RPG thing is the other thread is a tabletop game. So I guess I'll go read up on that.
>> No. 68117
>>68090

He has some idea what he's doing. Donate another 50k to "unlock" more reward tiers, so more people will donate to receive overpriced merchandise?

It's a clever tactic, even if people are donating towards a game that shows no concept art, no designs, no basic premise, just a "best of" montage in the headlining video.
>> No. 68134
>>68117
It's like you've never seen a kickstarter before.
>> No. 68139
>>68134

Even the Yogscast -- a pair of no-talent non-celebs who I vehemently despise -- at least had a developer lined up and managed to present a several minute long video demonstrating the basic outline of the game, paired with a handful of pieces of concept art. Even the guys on Kickstarter who are going to swipe all your money have at least something of substance there to try and fool you.

Hussie's "we have stuff but it's up in the air/we're not telling" approach is amazingly dumb, but I'm not in the least bit surprised nobody cares about the distinct lack of material because the MSPA fandom will throw money at any horrible shirt or highly derivative song he decides to sell.
>> No. 68144
>>68139
They're probably expecting something like the walk-around flashes, or Jane's adventure game flashes.

But really, it's kickstarter. Land of Pitches and Ego. Can't really blame Hussie for knowing he's got a golden goose here. I'd milk it too!
>> No. 68150
>>68139
banking on reputation in this scenario isn't completely crazy. merchandise quality aside, as an artist hussie has done a lot of stuff before mspa that implies he can finish a project. and having professionals involved instead of random forum volunteers (as in the music team) will help with that as well, I think.

that said, I'm also sort of annoyed that the development house they're going with is so hush-hush. ideally before helping to pay a development house, I'd want to know I could trust them more than I trust the competent amateurs who are currently helping for free.
>> No. 68152
>>68144
ick, I hope not. if you're just using the same engine you already have, what's the point of hiring a development house?
>> No. 68158
>>68139

There's the Tim Schafer kickstarter, which was pretty vague on what it was going to be, as well, and it was massively successful. Now of course Hussie isn't a professional game developer, but as >>68150 said, he can probably get it sometime done, and as long as it's still has the same soul as Homestuck, it'll be great fun.
>> No. 68161
If it's anything like "On A Rainslick Precipice of Darkness" I'll have a lot of fun.

I just hope it isn't a total clusterfuck.
>> No. 68166
>>68144
It doesn't matter what rep kickstarter has, Andrew has already shown restraint in the face of tumblr and still hasn't given in. He is just using kickstarter as a tool.
>> No. 68176
>>68152
It doesn't need to be same engine to be the same type of game. I expect something where different areas of the game use mechanics from the various game segments, with possibly the only overarching similarities being the inventories and maybe using the character's computers as menu screens/chat log archives. I doubt any of the flashes were made to plug together for the purpose of making a larger game, so it'd make sense to start over in terms of engine development.
>> No. 68307
>Slick pack doesnt come with a signed copy of the physical game

Well i might as well just kill myself
>> No. 68308
Oh shit

I need those cards to live, but I don't want any of the tacky bullshit that comes with it. Then if I wanted the physical game too I'd need to get the $325 tier and subject myself to an even greater deluge of tacky bullshit. At that point I might as well go for the $500, but then I'd be wasting $500 on this ridiculous thing. FUCK.

>>68307

That's just the thing with these kickstarters, ain't it? The lack of a la carte rewards. I just want a game and a deck of cards and a dragon. Is that so much to ask?
>> No. 68309
you know how the comic constantly switches between multiple characters?

I hope the game does that, and they all have slightly different mechanics except for like one or two minor ones who are basically an entirely different gimmicky game like a rythem game or a dateing sim or some shit.
>> No. 68310
Hussie did say some of these things could be available from the store after this whole thing comes to a close, but won't say which ones. Clever bastard.
>> No. 68316
>>68310
It's what I'm going to do. I can live without a signed physical copy.
I'll just buy one sometime later if the downloadable version proves nice.
Just for novelty's sake.
>> No. 68323
Will hussie work well with a developer? He seems like a dude who couldnt give up any creative control
>> No. 68324
>>68323

Well, he's been collaborating with all the art team members + Gankro for mad codes for a while. I would think that whatever dev team this is would understand something about Homestuck, as it would be very strange for Hussie to put all this work into the Kickstarter, just to shell it out for a Homestuck licensed game.
>> No. 68325
>>68323
That's my #1 concern. Hussie pretty obviously doesn't know much about game development and seems to be a bit of a lone wolf, so I'm a bit wary of what he's going to do with this game. I'm assuming he's going to be the writer and let the developer take care of the gameplay and puzzles and whatnot, but gameplay and writing are so closely intertwined in adventure games that I'd think the writer(s) would have to have some knowledge and experience about how to construct a real game. Not walkaround flashes, those don't count. Maybe he will only supply the mythos and let the team's writers make their own characters and story, but that might get sticky too.

I just don't want this to be in development hell forever because the creator has some mad $$$ and a vision, but doesn't have any experience or knowledge of the actual development process. I'm not ragging on Hussie personally, it's just a situation that could easily, EASILY go bottom up. Even if he's competent it doesn't mean the team members will be either especially if they are Homestuck fans themselves--too much bootlicking tributes and trying too hard to emulate the feel of the comic chokes out their own voices and makes games come off as derivative, stupid, and probably inaccessible to non-Homestucks.
>> No. 68365
so betatesting the next walkaround flash should be neat.
>> No. 68366
>>68365
So, how many seconds until it'll be leaked all over the internet?
>> No. 68373
>>68366
ten, maybe 20 seconds? How long does it take to make a mediafire?
>> No. 68381
>>68373
People have been pretty good about not leaking the purchasable wallpapers, so I doubt finding a demo leak will be that easy.
>> No. 68393
4chan was talking about making $50 dollar donations to get the beta and then cancelling them like the unscrupulous buttheads that they are, so I think that beta's gonna be leaked pretty fuckin' fast.
>> No. 68395
>>68381
Well, I've seen plenty of those posted in HSG, so I wouldn't be too sure about that.
And I mean, we're talking about, what, six thousand people here? It's practically a certainty that at least one of them will be willing to upload the thing.
>> No. 68396
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68396
I almost hope Hussie doesnt reveal much about the game, so we dont end up like pic related
>> No. 68398
Considering how long it took for just the sprites to leak...
>> No. 68400
>>68396
Um, how did pic related end up?
>> No. 68402
Welp, there's now a second 10k backer.
>> No. 68403
>>68395
Most of the paid wallpapers on HSG were comically altered though.
>> No. 68408
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68408
So does anybody know what the 3 fan trolls that are gonna be canon look like?
>> No. 68409
>>68408

http://trollslum.wikia.com/wiki/DebonairCorsair

That's the first one from the army guy with too much time on his hands. I imagine the other two will also be horrible Frankenstein creations ripped straight from the character sprite sheets.
>> No. 68412
>>68409
That's it? I want a canon-defiling abomination. Bring on Gamzee's heretofore unmentioned adoptive Juggalette sister and Eridan's ex-matesprit who has rainbow hair, bondage pants, a cutting problem, and a polysyllabic title, I say.
>> No. 68418
>>68412

You honestly think character background is going to play any part of the fantroll's appearance? If the troll has any lines at all then it'll be nothing more than a fourth wall self-referential throwaway gag before it gets killed on the next page.
>> No. 68421
>>68418
Yeah, this. They're probably all going to be nameless Beforussians with once scene of screentime before getting crushed by meteors.
>> No. 68422
>>68418
I'm quite sure you're right, and it's probably better for everybody if that turns out to be the case - but still, it makes me kind of ill to think that's what $10,000 buys you from Andrew Hussie.

Not that it's any kind of disillusionment. We're all familiar with his M.O. I just hope that that's exactly the sort of appearance the donors are expecting, and no more.
>> No. 68427
>>68422

This is a guy who recently said fifty bucks buys you the next page of the comic before anyone else. Nothing surprises me any more.
>> No. 68429
A 10k backer has withdrawn their pledge. Probably came to their senses.
>> No. 68436
This fucking thing has become it's own comic to me. Like, I would legit recommend it as a horror story for the fiscally responsible. The dude taking back his 10K is the part where the previously fucking couple just got away from the murderer, and are talking about what a close call it was.
>> No. 68438
>>68427
It's also the same guy who defaced a valuable novelty book for penis jokes, took fan donations intended for a joke soul portrait commission and used them (finally) on an Olive Garden dinner, and gave a friend unlimited access to all his funds. I don't think think Hussie really sees quick money grabs as much more than a joke, unless it's for maintenance and if there's a specific goal that needs funding.
>> No. 68460
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68460
>>68400

The hipsterlumberjack debacle happened because backers were demanding Tim Schafer release more updates on the game, so a very rough lighting test was shown. This was leaked to the wider internet, and everybody started wondering where the 3.3 million dollars had gone.

Moral is: Dont show how the sausage is made before the customer has eaten it.
>> No. 68515
haha they turned off the "canon fantroll"tier
>> No. 68518
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68518
These cards are freaking awesome.
>> No. 68519
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68519
>>68518
>John not the Fool
>Jade not the High Priestess
>> No. 68520
Oh nooo, more cards. Ugh, there goes another future 50 bucks. At this point I'm sure Hussie could destroy me utterly by releasing Homestuck the TCG.

>>68519

But isn't seer of light basically "the High Priestess: the Class"?
>> No. 68521
>>68519
>>68520
two years ago, jade was the oracle, the one who knew what was hidden, and revealed it at the right time. she was the space player, the princess of prospit.

but then her dreamself died, and soon after that Rose started doing properly seerly stuff.

so yeah. if this had been printed in act 4 or 5, I think things would have been different.
>> No. 68525
>want the tarot and midnight crew card deck
>don't want any of the other horseshit (tote bags? Who even wants one of those)

Fuckin' better show up in the merch shop.
>> No. 68529
>>68525
you wouldn't want a prospit or derse shirt? those are rad.
>> No. 68532
>>68525
This, as well as
>not paying $150 for a deck of cards and a shirt
I'd love to support you in your endeavor, Mr. Hussie, but not that much.
>> No. 68536
>>68529
They'd look better without the waistline part. Kind of makes em look silly but that's just me.
>> No. 68558
>>68532
You're not really paying for the prizes.
You're donating and receiving trinkets as thank you gifts.
>> No. 68559
>>68558

But when you're past twice the initial target it really does just seem like you're paying for the merchandise, vaguely outlined stretch goals or otherwise.
>> No. 68560
>>68558

Nuh uh, I'm just doing it for the merch. For a while I actually forgot that this was actually funding the game I was buying. I am just straight up paying +200 bucks for two sets of cards and a videogame.
>> No. 68591
I really hope some of these items appear in the store proper in the future--especially those lovely tarot cards.
>> No. 68592
>>68591
Considering that there inst a limit on them I'm putting money that they will be.
>> No. 68594
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68594
>shitheads revoking their funding because of non-white kids
>> No. 68595
>>68594
Racist homestucks getting mad about non-white kids is just the funniest thing
especially when they try to explain how they're not racist
"BAWWW WHY SHOULD YOU CARE WHAT RACE THEY ARE NOBODY SHOULD CARE YOU'RE RACIST FOR CARING ABOUT RACE" they yell at any fans actually pleased by the development, as they ragequit and loudly proclaim their refusal to give hussie money.

This sort of thing happened on a smaller scale when the album art for Jane Dargason showed a black Jane.
>> No. 68596
>>68594
wait what?
>> No. 68598
>>68596

people are pulling out their kickstarter donations bc the tarot cards were updated to include a more diverse cast
>> No. 68599
>>68594
>>68598
are you serious
laffo
>> No. 68600
the whole thing is really stupid

people shouldn't have been calling the artists racists for not including dark-skinned characters because it's generally accepted that these characters are white. the story hints that they are light-skinned various times, and it was outright said (at one point, before it was censored) that bro was a white guy. strider/lalondes canonically have naturally straight blonde hair which is kind of a white thing normally. yeah, they could be albino with asiatic or african features, or they could just be black with inexplicable lightly coloured hair even though it's impossible--it's a cartoon. but that's probably not the first thing people think of when they come across a blonde character. john and jade are more racially neutral because their hair can belong on any race (but is very rare on black people) but it's definitely not "unrealistic" or racist for them to be portrayed as white either. it is hardly a sin that an artist would choose to draw two sets of siblings as white. artists should not be made to feel guilty about their choices or pressured to change their artwork. it's ok you drew rose as white. really, it is. nobody involved in the card deck has done anything wrong.

and at the very least, the consistency of skin and hair colours in the character designs helps to unify a project with many styles and contributing artists.

there is really no excuse for the backlash though. people crying about cards being changed and updated to include alternate designs runt he gamut from stupid, whiny, entitled fans who can't stand to see art that doesn't fit with their headcanons to ACTUAL racist scumbags that deserve five million times more hate than any of the artists got for being "racist." nothing will be lost if they withdraw their pledges since the game already has over twice its goal in donations. no one cares.

honestly though i feel like it would be less of a big damn issue if the artists got together an all came to a conclusion about how they would draw the characters instead of making it a rainbow of different designs. i.e. if everyone just decided rose and dave were albino with asian features and jade and john had a mid-brown skin tone and EVERYONE who drew these four changed their cards to conform to the standard set by the group. some people are very particular about matched sets. even on here you see people complaining about guest artists in flashes and shit because their styles don't mesh with how hussie draws them. so at least in some cases, it's not about race, it's about some sort of consistency fetish. and if they did, it would feel less like tokenism than if it's like 4 white jades and 1 black jade or whatever (and tokenism also might be a factor).
>> No. 68601
So where the tarot cards changed in the first place because people complained that the kids where drawn as white or whatever? Do people have a problem with design consistency?
>> No. 68602
>>68601

the artists were given a change to change if they wanted to.
>> No. 68603
>>68602
So where a lot of them just drawing them white cause they felt they had to then they where told that they could do whatever? Cause thats a lot better then changing it cause the fans complained.
>> No. 68605
>>68603

the cards were done over a year ago before the idea of the kids being anything other than white went mainstream and was generally accepted as a Really Good Idea
>> No. 68609
>>68605
oh okay that makes a lot more sense. I can kind of see why some people might want to opt out of the seerpack knowing the art is going to be changed, i wouldnt want to plop down $100plus on HS kickstarter merch if i knew the character weren't even going to look like they do in the comic but like to be mad about it is pretty silly.
>> No. 68610
>>68609
Then human characters shouldn't be caucasian then. They should all be stark porcelain white.

Now with the race thing settled, can we establish the rule that trolls should never be anything but gray skinned (ie. the absurd trend of coloring their skin to match blood color, which would've resulted in Karkat being immediately culled)?
>> No. 68611
>>68610
Please yes thank you.

Little annoys me more than trolls constantly blushing from head to toe in fanart.
>> No. 68612
once again the homestuck fanbase proves its "maturity" and the "social justice" of our culture.

now go and rest our heroes.
>> No. 68613
Guys, guys, slowpoke here. What is all this fuss about changing Tarot art? Source of info?
>> No. 68614
I just dont think that stark white hair looks good with that dark of a skin tone.

Also the stickers just look kinda bad in general.
>> No. 68615
>>68614
> I just dont think that stark white hair looks good with that dark of a skin tone.
grimdark rose
>> No. 68616
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68616
>>68615
But grimdark rose's skin and hair were both devoid of chroma, and she was supposed to look cold and weird. The white hair next to the brown skin just kinda drains the warmth that's supposed to be there.

Personally, I think dark skinned dersekids look better when you color in their hair blonde. Non-white blondes are a real thing, and if we're going by the assumption that the kid's black and white lineart makes them coloring books, then that means it's perfectly ok to color in the dersekids' hair.
>> No. 68617
>>68615
which is not a natural skin tone

>>68616
yeah blonde would look a bit better.

Also races and skin tones or no, Dave's shades are supposed to be the same as Stiller's, so no hideous yellow frame.
>> No. 68618
>>68617
That was from an AU where Ben Stiller is also black
>> No. 68619
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>>68613
>> No. 68620
>>68619
Sorry! I didn't intent to steal your name. I'm just oblivious.
>> No. 68624
So, DEVELOPERS.

Who would make a great developer for the forthcoming Homestuck adventure game?

My vote: Supergiant Games
Reason: Bastion. Play that damn thing. I dare you not to love it. It wound RPG elements with run-around crushing things gameplay, and did a stellar job integrating story telling into the gameplay.

Of course, the Homestuck game will not be too much like Bastion in all likelyhood, but I think they've got the chops to get it done.
>> No. 68626
>>68620
it's cool dude, I know what the phrase means, I was joshin' around
>> No. 68960
>randomly selected shipping patches

There will be SO MANY crackships
>> No. 68961
Activison

EA Games
>> No. 68962
Activison

EA Games
>> No. 68964
So, counting the Paypal fund raiser that's going to happen after the official Kickstarter ends, do you think we'll hit the $2.5M marker when all's said and done?
>> No. 68965
>>68964
I think it's very possible. There's often a sharp funding spike in the final days/hours. Plus yeah, paypal.
>> No. 68968
Ok, what does that 2.5mil perk even mean? Doesn't the digital copy come with the physical copy for some already?
>> No. 68969
>>68968
I think he means a digital copy of the comic, not of the game.
>> No. 70766
So apparently some of the goodies have arrived for some people.

Anybody get theirs yet?

Anybody get a fun shipping patch?
>> No. 70767
>>70766
FWIW, I bought in at a pretty high level and I've heard nothing since the backer survey.
>> No. 70768
>>70766
I got everything that came with my Pak. Everything except the shipping patches. Damnit, I was looking foward to those way more than I was to the stupid stickers.
>> No. 73412
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73412
New update just posted.

Confirmed for the game:

* No custom characters
* No multi-player
* No voice acting
* No player-controlled Sburb
* No returning characters
* Yes trolls

Pic related? Probably not.
>> No. 73414
So, what does /mspa/ think of the new info on the game? There seem to be some disappointment with the confirmed lack of Sburb in the title a long with excitement of the character concept art in other places where the fanbase hang out.
>> No. 73416
Some people have pointed out that the new kid looks a bit like Jake and Roxy's baby in the "pornography" Dirk drew Caliborn.

Personally, I think that's just a coincidence, and you have to squint to see the resemblance anyway. But it's a neat observation.
>> No. 73422
>>73414
From what I can tell from >>73412:
>visible flow chart could be for anything and thus means nothing
>art shows there will be at least one human and some weird prototyped enemies, both facts which were obvious from the outset
>only other confirmation of inclusion is for trolls, which as a species don't grab my curiosity as much as SBURB mechanics and carapace people
>they also don't make that much sense in the context of going for a smaller, self-contained story
>on the other hand, no Lord English despite him being specifically built up as a cross-session threat, unless different instances don't count as the same character
>no assurance that there's going to be a fair amount of gameplay despite the general reaction to Namco High School
Somewhat glad I didn't fund this so far out of five, hopefully no custom characters doesn't mean you don't get to name the playable characters with a filter in place to have them reject things they wouldn't like, and maybe we'll get some FLARP action out of the trolls. The 3D art, while nice, doesn't seem that intriguing unless it's used to open up the possibility of parametric 3D stuff or at least some serious spacial/topological complexity. Range of objects one can prototype and the weirdness of their effects is yet to be seen.
>> No. 73423
>>73422
>Range of objects one can prototype and the weirdness of their effects is yet to be seen.

no sburb means no prototyping. it's an "adventure game" which means point & click gameplay like myst or gone home; there likely won't be any fighting or customisation at all. unlike myst and gone home though, there will probably be a fuckton of dialogue and if the "games" in homestuck resemble what this game is going to become, most progression in the game is going to come down to talking to the right people in the right order instead of slow-paced exploration.

he said it's not going to be about sburb because "that's what homestuck was about" and i think that's funny because we never got to see anyone in homestuck play the game as it was supposed to be played. the parts where they did play were glossed over--sburb got crowded out for other shit pretty early on which was a shame.

if you paid money to back this game and don't like the direction it is taking, i don't feel sorry for you because you gleefully funded a project you knew absolutely nothing about, not even the developer (which he still isn't telling you), and that is an extremely stupid decision. it's clever on hussie's part to say nothing until he's got his money, knowing that the fanbase wouldn't pay out as much if they knew it would be like this, but it is a sneaky and somewhat dishonest tactic so boo on him too.
>> No. 73429
>>73423
He actually said directly upfront on the kickstarter page that the game would only be loosely related to Homestuck and not a retelling or part of the story told in the comic, but its own thing in the same universe.

It's just that most of the backers were too retarded to read past the words "Homestuck Game"
>> No. 73430
>>73412
It's more or less what I expected. He's said from the beginning that it'd be loosely related to the comic.

That being said, no recurring characters? No sburb at all? No customizable characters? Eh
>> No. 73431
>>73423
Dead right. I feel awfully silly for contributing now. Next time I'm deciding whether to give this team money I'll have a lawyer present.
>> No. 73432
>>73430
The Kickstarter page is very well designed to mislead people. It's genius, really.

First, there's a big spiel about what Homestuck is to preface the actual talk about the game he is going to make. The title of the Kickstarter? Homestuck Adventure Game. This stuff primes you and colours your perceptions about everything that is going to come after it. After he finishes talking about things you already know, he does say that it will be "minimally relevant" to Homestuck canon, and that he is going to make use of some elements in Homestuck that he finds interesting... which are honestly super meaningless phrases to everyone but Andrew himself at the moment, but since you've already got Homestuck on the forefront of your mind from reading all the shit that prefaced it you're going to read that as "it's still going to be stuff you liked in Homestuck." Everything related to this game is smothered in weasel words; there's a lot of sentences that sound like they have information to give you but they are completely hollow. By the time you get to this section, you are probably skimming instead of reading the text closely, because it's fucking long and you have just read through a bunch of shit telling you what you already know. You have to be looking for the red flags to see them. THEN of course he shows you all the cool stuff you are going to get if you give him money, and they're big colourful pictures, which bring your attention back.

There are two other "small print" type things in the FAQ that tell you, again, that this game isn't related to Homestuck, but they are hidden so that most people won't look at them.

> What will the game be like? Will my favorite characters be in it? Will there be trolls, and exiles, and the Felt and Squiddles and oh my god.
>This is way up in the air right now! Just about any element from Homestuck could be part of the game, but certainly not all will be. Andrew has some ideas for a story. These ideas will be refined as we get into the high level planning phase.

>What will the story of the game be? The visual style? Who will the characters be?
>Aside from what we've said in the FAQ and body text, we aren't releasing anything about the style or content of the game. You want to be surprised when it comes out, right?

I have no fucking clue whether or not he does this shit on purpose. It looks so calculated and it worked so well but at the same time I am not sure if he is actually thinking about how to wring the most cash he can out of unsuspecting people. He might just do it naturally and not think about it at all. Some kind of idiot savant maybe.
>> No. 73433
I'm not mad about any of this except for no multi-player and no custom characters/house/sburb stuff. The canon Homestuck characters have their own story to wrap up, and having fans retroactive take a part in it would wind up giving the game an extremely low ceiling, besides being unrealistic within its context. New characters and their own mythology within the Homestuck reality sounds good to me.

>* No returning characters
>* Yes trolls
I feel so bad for those two who dumped a shitload of money to get their fantrolls in Homestuck for one panel. Would it seriously be so hard to throw them a bone in the form of cameos in game? This is just a dangling carrot for them.
>> No. 73434
To prevent people from trying to read too much into my summary, I'm just going to copy/paste the whole update.

"Greetings, and Happy New Year. Welcome to the First Annual Homestuck Kickstarter Update of 2013!!!

Much progress has been made on the adventure game since the Kickstarter ended. The game design work is mostly complete, thanks to the gritty combined efforts of myself, the developers, and those who for now I will refer to as Mystery Friends. Please observe the graphic below for evidence of this fact. This is a behind the scenes look at the true nature of Professional Game Design. A rare glimpse if you will at what Top Dev Honchos refer to as "the big leagues".

Even though a lot has been done so far, there have not been many junctures which I have felt would make for good Kickstarter updates along the way. Primarily this is because I want to avoid spoiling stuff as much as possible, and without such specifics, there tends to be... not a lot to report! There has been high level planning. There has been legal shuffling. Some modeling. Gameplay mockups. Entire sketchpads filled with gibberish. All such material tends to fall into one of two camps. Either too boring to bug you with, or TOO HOT FOR TV! It would be cool to be able to drop some killer screenshots on you, from strategically vague and mysterious moments throughout the game, but the fact is, that kind of content won't be available until the whole thing is nearly ready for prime time anyway. So until then, I hope you will bring yourself to enjoy nigh-impenetrable offerings such as these.

I guess I could announce the name of the developer, but even that I would like to wait until just the right moment I have in mind. (My reasons for keeping them a secret are also a secret!) But for now I will say they're good at making games and it's been a lot of fun working with them so far.

So what can I say about the game for now? How about I start by clarifying what the game is NOT. I hope I'm not using too much vertical space to state the obvious here. But I've seen enough conjecture like this to think some selective debunking may be in order.

* You will not be able to design or customize characters. The game includes a hard wired cast of protagonists.
* The game will not involve Sburb. It won't be some crazy MMORPG involving kids playing Sburb and the insane number of things that would entail. For one thing, Sburb is a very broad and ambitious game concept which implies a project with a much bigger budget than the one this has. For another thing, that idea is not quite what an "adventure game" is. And besides, in my view, a bunch of kids playing Sburb is what Homestuck is about. This game will be about something different.
* Game will not be multi-player. Again, that's not really how adventure games work. - No voice acting. VA in this game sounds like a can of worms to me, and too easy to do badly. I'm personally not that big on VA in games like this anyway. I think it'll be a stronger product without it.

If you already knew all that, thanks for bearing with me! If you didn't, and are disappointed by those facts, I am sorry.

Now here are some things that the game WILL have!

* New characters. All major characters in the game have never appeared in Homestuck before.
* New story. As mentioned, does not involve Sburb, but does take place within same fictional realm as Homestuck. Events of story have only a loose relation to canon HS storyline. It is not necessary to read HS to play game.
* Trolls
* See below
[Here's where he posted the image I had in my first post >>73412]

That does it for the First Annual Homestuck Kickstarter Update of 2013! I can only hope it was at least mildly frustrating for you to read, because that probably means you want to play the game. Thanks to backers for their ongoing support. Stay tuned for more news next year!

-Andrew Hussie

>> No. 73435
>>73423
>>73434
Ah, alright, I just interpreted "no player controlled Sburb" as meaning "you don't get to play around with the Sburb server.", which would just mean no manual tower building. I agree that Homestuck diverged too much from the session to be about Sburb. As for prototyping, though, the captchalog system exists in the universe even outside the game, and alternate Dave was apparently able to take advantage of the rules for how much item prototyping costs in regular manufacturing, so there's that. And if there's no Sburb, why is there a thing on the left that looks like some kind of chess monster?
>> No. 73436
>>73433
I feel the same way. New characters are great, new storyline is great, really bummed out about no sburb and no customizable characters. Let's be honest, one of the reasons Homestuck got so huge is because people were able to immerse themselves in the story. "I'm a Knight of Life!" "I'm a Thief of Rage!" "My weapon is a giant umbrella!" "my fantroll is a limeblood and PSYCHIC AS FUCK" etc etc

I know I'm just speaking for myself, but I was really looking forward to playing sburb, even if it was with premade NPCs to be part of your session
>> No. 73437
>>73436
Honestly, I think it's a good decision--you can recreate SBURB far better through a tabletop game than we could ever do through a video game at this point. Maybe when computer AI gets closer to human like, you could teach it to be creative enough to respond to alchemy and prototypings with appropriate graphics on the fly.

So get your SBURB through tabletop games. I've found FATE to be especially good for the purpose. This game will be more for the adventure game elements of Homestuck.
>> No. 73438
>>73435
Ancient relics and other stuff referencing SBURB existed outside of the game for years in the past (but not many), so maybe they can be mutually exclusive. SBURB could be a single prong of a multi attack on reality for all we know.
>> No. 73439
>>73432
>It looks so calculated and it worked so well but at the same time I am not sure if he is actually thinking about how to wring the most cash he can out of unsuspecting people. He might just do it naturally and not think about it at all. Some kind of idiot savant maybe.
In an interview Hussie actually admitted he has this weird ability to just stumble onto extremely conveniently toyetic ideas. Like having a cast of over a dozen characters dress in easily reproducible t-shirts.
>> No. 73441
>>73439
Hussie doesn't seem to care about money for personal gain, just for maintenance and to pay all the people working for him. Or for humor like in the Kickstarter.
>> No. 73450
Damn it I want to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay it
>> No. 73470
>>73450
You say this now.
>> No. 73484
yo guys what if mystery girl's strife specibi wasn't the flashlight but shadow puppets?
>> No. 73488
>>73484
That would be hilarious
>> No. 73671
When it's coming hussie
>> No. 73700
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73700
So new info!

* Looking at a late 2014 release
* Ryan North of Dinosaur Comics helped lay out the foundation of the game and the gameplay
* The Odd Gentlemen is the studio developing the game

We also got a look at some concept art.

Pic 1
>> No. 73701
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73701
>>73700
Pic 2
>> No. 73702
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>>73700
Pic 3
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>>73700
Pic 4
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>>73700
This picture doesn't have anything to do with the game. It's Hussie's wallet, which contains a picture of Ryan North. How touching.
>> No. 73706
>>73701
Guess we really won't see the clown kept down
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