That Mafia one shot came out. It was neat.

>Kakashi Kamui'd Deidara's arm
>Tobi got sent to help him retrieve it
OH GOOOOOOD

>>82730
Are you elongating "good" or "god".
It's hard to tell in text form.

>>82731
God.
I just realized why that was relevant.

>>82728
That girl on the far right is uncomfortably similar to Gary Oak.

>>82729
Good because it's better than Naruto or would it make for a good series on its own?

>>82748
I dunno. It went pretty fast, but it was interesting. If he were to write a full series of it, I'd check it out I suppose.

Wait, Naruto saw the ending coming, what?

>>82785
Yeah, tha seems like kind of an odd reaction for someone who couldn't have possibly known that that was about to happen...

Wait... what's that on the ground over there next to Naruto? Is that the script?

>>82785
Probably picked them up on his SAGE-DAR before he had to power down

>>82785
He could sense someone else having Kurama's chakra even through a powerful barrier meant to keep him from doing that.
Given that his dad has the other half of Kurama sealed inside him(?), he'd probably know right away.

And once again, the day is saved due to the efforts of the secondary cast, including Shikamaru and Ino taking up the mantles of their late fathers, rallying together all the allied shinobi to perform an amazing combination jutsu that...

Oh wait, no, they just stalled the bad guys for five seconds, just long enough for the REAL heroes to come to the battlefield. Silly me! I forgot for a moment that nobody except the Sage of Six Paths and those directly related to him are worth a damn in this series.

>>82796
Except EVERYONE WOULD BE DEAD if they hadn't pulled that little stunt.
Just because they're not the ones fighting toe-to-toe with the Big Bad doesn't mean that they're useless.

>>82802
yes. thank you. this wasn't just them being cannon fodder.

The latest chapter sounds hella retarded.

Believe it.

>>This chapter make Eva 3.33 looks like a fucking masterpiece

>>82886
I love that even Akamaru goes O-O at is.

I have to admit, I liked the part where Madara was just stunned speechless by Hashirama.

>>82891

>So is that your girlfriend?
>Yeah, I guess so...

>Hinata who? What's that bitch ever done for me?

Sorry Hinata, but since Naruto can't seem to remember you even exist once you leave his line of site, you're going to die unloved and alone.

Maybe you could hop over to the Korra universe, you and Bolin would have a lot to talk about.

>>82885
This made me laugh especially the Manga Stream translation. Sakura said "damsel in distress" instead of "weak woman." Even as a damsel Sakura fails. For as much as people rag on Princess Peach she's a cute sweet demure woman, so Mario's infatuation with her is understandable, but Sakura? She's a bitch. She's the kind of woman you tell the bad guy "Yo you can have her and do what you want with her." Speaking of which, its an oldie, but a classic:

mario rescues princess peach b…

I feel sorry for Hinata and I'm not even a shipper, objectively speaking Naruto does not deserve her. Its obvious Naruto much like Minato is a canon masochist who likes his woman to beat him hard and severely. A sweet like Hinata would be wasted on such a pile of shit. If anyone else gets Hinata then it will be a better match than she being with Naruto who wouldn't appreciate her since she wouldn't beat his ass for inane nonsensical reasons.

>>82886

I am somewhat confused.

Sakura is stated to still be in love with Sasuke, now Sasuke is continuing his tradition of side-hopping and has jumped back to team good, okay...

Hinata has had further interaction/moments with Naruto during the War of saving him and convincing him to fight on instead of folding and giving up as soon as an ally dies in-front of him with her words and actions. alright I'm following this,

And now Naruto is still aiming for Sakura?
The series is sending some strange mixed messages here, or a translation issue that I'm not grasping.

There's many issues with Kishi's writing in this chapter but I can understand the more blatant ones, this has just got be completely befuddled.

>>82900
The Naruto and Sakura thing is more because Minato likes Sakura and feels she's a good potential mate for Naruto since she reminds him of his wife........by being a violent abusive bitch. I guess Minato likes to think "Like Father, Like Son" and thinks positively that his son is a masochist like himself.

Naruto didn't confirm he and Sakura were hooked up, just that she happened to be a female friend (though let's face it Sakura is terrible friend as well). If anything I think he was trying to say he's not seeing anyone at the current time, so he's single.

>>82900
>>ITT shippers overreacting

>>Let me tell you guys something,
>>would like to point out that in Japanese, the word “kanojo” is used for both meanings, girl friend and girlfriend. If you look in any dictionary English-Japanese the word “girl friend” (as in friends), you’ll find the word kanojo, and if you look for the word “girlfriend”, you’ll find kanojo. However, even if the word used is koibito, which is lover, there is absolutely no reason to overreact. Kishimoto’s intention is clear.

>>Naruto’s reply to his father’s teasing question (any father when he sees his son with a girl asks if she’s his girlfriend) was: “ummmmm… the thing is… yeah, you could say that! I mean if you are splitting hairs, I guess-” As you know, “splitting hairs” is an expression that means “differentiation”, the details that differentiate one thing from another thing, like the difference between “girlfriend” and “girl friend”. However, Sakura doesn’t allow Naruto to finish his explanation. Kishimoto wanted the misunderstanding or the double meaning in this sentences to cause humor. He wanted Sakura and Naruto act with each other as in the good old days, because this is the chapter of team seven.

>>TL-DR: Minato tried to tease Naruto by asking an intentionally vague question, and Naruto flat out denied everything.

>>There I took the time to explain all that to you.

not my post and dont speak moon so cannot vouch for it

Does anyone actually care about Team 7?
Not counting Sasuke's sudden alignment flip or Sakura's unlikely claims of being as competent as the two guys, these three are some of my least favourite characters of the series. I'd be more excited seeing any of the other teams take the stage.

>>82903
This. If they all died I wouldn't care. I want to see how the under-utilized rookies from the other teams adapt to these events that shape everything in the world.

See, I told you he had the other half of Kurama inside him.

I have to think that Kishimoto just so badly wanted "Team 7" to become the true successors of the Sannin, that he had to bring a brainwashed Sasuke back to make it happen.

Because, in this manga, generational parallels mean more than ANYTHING! Even more than logic. You can see it in how Minato got retconned into being able to use Super Saiyan Kyuubi just like Naruto, despite having been dead for all but five seconds after getting half the Kyuubi sealed inside him. Everyone must match their older/younger counterparts.

So, that means that Sasuke will have gotten his snakey powers back from Orochimaru. Naruto will summon Gamabunta to ride into battle. Sakura will have that diamond-forehead-seal (I forget the real name) that Tsunade had. And when it's all over and the war has ended, Sasuke will leave the village again. Naruto will become a drifter who writes inspirational novels.

And SAKURA will become the Hokage.

Just you guys watch.

>>82906
I kind of want Konoha to collapse. That village's creation was riddled with disaster and the ruling body for it has been composed of retards who never should have been allowed to become Hokages outside of Tobirama who is the only one with common sense.

To leave the village in the hands of another Hashirama/Minato retard like Naruto or someone who takes after a drunken gambler like Tsunade is a horrible idea. Better for the village to collapse and become balkanized with the high ranking clans leaving the place and taking their wealth with them.

>>82907
Tobimara is actually in the right alot of the time, but because he's gruff and logical instead of being an invincible idealist he gets shit on instead.

>>82897
>>82901

I see you've learned how to be more subtle, ryona anon. But sadly not subtle enough! You're immediately identifiable by your "sexual value" PUA bullshit.

>>82908
This is a problem with all Shounen. The rational and logical characters are ridiculed. Usually they're villains or cynics who must be converted to the heroes POV by showing how much the hero is right ONLY because he's the hero of the story so whatever the hero claims works out ONLY FOR HIM because he's the protagonist.

Any other person who adopts the hero's naive childish idealistic views suffers for it. On the spot the example that comes to mind was Wolfwood from Trigun. He adopted Vash's stupid pacifism......and ended up killed by the guy he had a vendetta against. Regardless of circumstances and how it happened, Vash's influence opened the door that led to Wolfwood's death. The hero of course is shielded from all consequences and in the case of Vash he is immortal and can't die so he can afford to spew retarded messages about pacifism.

But essentially that is how Shounen rolls. Even Seinen falls prey to this kind of writing. Its like being rational is a crime in fiction. I particularly hate it when the rational logical type characters are forced by the writer to die for the naive dumbass type protagonists.

Just read the Mangastream translation. This was a good chapter. The ". . ." moment made me laugh out loud.

But also, I like this new setup. No contrived angsty battle between them, no Sakura watching from the sidelines. It's not perfect, but it's genuinely alot better than I expected.

Hmm... the only reason Sasuke wants to be Hokage now is so there's a reason in the plot for him to have a 'final battle' with Naruto despite thme being on the same side, right?

Man I kinda hated this. Like, worse than Bleach.
I think I'm becoming jaded towards Naruto, the only part of this entire chapter I liked was Madara's face when Hashirama was like "yeah, whatever, in a little while."

>>82911
To be fair, "Protagonist approaches and solves situation in rational, thought-out manner, sidestepping all drama" is 9 times out of 10 an incredibly boring story.

>>82915
I disagree, but to each their own.

>>82915
There's nothing preventing a hero from acting rationally but still having to overcome great odds.
If the only way a story can work is if people act like retards all the time...

okay fine i liked this chapter BECAUSE of how trashy it is
you got me again, stupid kishimoto

goddammit.

>>82919
Harashima is fucking hilarious.

>>82919
This is the man that beat all the modern Hokage's at the same time, by himself, with little effort. Jesus Christ.

Whats stopping the four hokages from winning?
I mean they are the most "lolultimate badasses" of all ninja that have ever existed but now they are completely immortal and have infinite chakra.
The only thing that could really stop them is if Orochimaru decides to screws them over

>>82911

Normally I would disagree with you but in this case I really can't.

>>82929
Well if Madara knows enough about it to negate the negation, perhaps he can also negate it.

>>82936
Harashima would just use his all-powerful WOOD genes to counter-negate his negation of the negations.

this is all a dream created by tsukiyomi and we're still at that point in the story where sasuke is fighting itachi inside the giant mountain frog stomach summoning technique

>>82946
I wouldn't mind. The story is shit so I would be fine with Kishimoto "trolling" an audience that doesn't even take his mediocre story seriously.

Aw man I cant wait for the Weekly Manga Recap podcast to talking about this.
I think it will go down something like this: Game grumps: What I'm willing …
With YroT as Arin.
Its gonna be so great~

Has anyone gotten to the point where they won't drop it but at the same time they'll read like three pages just tinge a gist of it?

>>82961
Sorry I dropped it yonks ago.

I only take note on these threads as I browse +4chan (or sometimes 4chan /a/) to hear just how bad it continues to be.
Only read a chapter if people are talking about something major that happened in a really round-about way and I want to see exactly what they mean.

I've invested too much time into this franchise to drop it without seeing its ending. I don't read the chapters weekly anymore though, only if it ever pops up in my head.

There was a year I didn't read it, because I couldn't give LESS of a shit for Sasuke's bullshit quest. I came back for crazy zombie wars and awesome characters kicking each others asses.

wat

>>82886

>>82664

>>83063
>>83062
>>83061
FFFFFFFHAaaahaahaahaha

>>83060
It took her three years to do that. Three years. that's ridiculous.

>>83066
And despite pulling this bullshit powerup out her ass she still needs to be saved

>>Wow only Kishi can make a girl power chapter so undermining to females.

>>83062

>>83061
>>83062
>>83063

I lol'd.

I'm actually ok with these turn of events, even if silly.

The shipping wars are getting unbearable, though.

>>Orochimaru apologizes to village with Sasuke
>>Says he wants to be Hokage
If Kishi want's to go all out comedy might as well...

They'll have to expand the room of the Hokage, and put a big round table.

Madara really annoys me. Its officially canon that the reason Madara sucks is because he is LAZY. This is not the first time he's sat on his ass and just went "Meh not today" in the entire arc.

And anyone laugh at Sakura pretending that she's worth a damn? They re-used the panels of the Chuunin Exam that were the least flattering to this already detestable character. It doesn't matter what Sakura does from here til the end of the series. She's been useless for too long to be taken seriously (especially when beating nameless generic spawn) and she's too much of a jackass for anyone to tolerate. Even Hinata's fanbase makes sense since she is NOT a bitch like how Sakura is. Sakura is too sucky that she has no right to ever even joke about becoming a Kage.

And Naruto acts like a pathetic emasculated loser. Really Naruto, the reason you're afraid of Sakura is because you never the balls to face her in battle and give her the same horrible abuse she unleashed on you. Til you face that demon you will always be a pathetic beta male undeserving of being a Hokage.

I sincerely hope Sasuke steals the title of Hokage from Naruto, he is NOT a moronic beta male (notice how Sakura thanked Sasuke for saving her in the chapter while ignoring Naruto also taking out a monster that was attacking her?). He's a true alpha.

>>83067
In reality women are pathetic weaklings. You have to be retarded to think women are better soldiers and warriors than men. Promptly kill yourself. The only thing female ninjas are good at is having sex with their targets and killing them during intercourse. Too bad Kishi didn't include this aspect of female ninjas.

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>>83074
You're taking this a little too seriously aren't you?

>>83075

>>83076
Honestly I'm surprised he's been doing this so long. You'd think it'd get old eventually.

>>83078
Do you ever figure that some guys truly have these core ideas as their real beliefs to live by?

>>83079
Oh some people do for sure, but the chance of this guy truly believing half of what he says is pretty much nil. He wouldn't be spouting it here after constantly being banned for what must be at least a year or two by now.

>Sakura will have that diamond-forehead-seal (I forget the real name) that Tsunade had.

Called it! Still waiting on the rest. And personally, even if it's short-lived, I don't mind the Sakura stuff. She's a useless character, yes, but it's nice to see her go Hulk-SMASH on occasion. If nothing else, it's a total subversion of what's usually portrayed in fiction to make the female characters the ones with the brute strength.


Naruto: I'm gonna be the Hokage!
Sasuke: I will be the Hokage.
Sakura: I want to be Hokage!
Kiba: Screw you guys! I will be Hokage!
Hashirama: It's nice that we have so many Hokage candidates, but there are more important things to deal with!
Shikamaru: I don't want to be Hokage.
Hashirama: Yes! Now you're my kind of guy!!
Shikamaru: Ugh. What a drag...

Maybe after all this is over they'll nix the kages altogether and turn the entire shinobi world into a big, happy republic. Would be a nice "fuck you" gag to Naruto if the position of Hokage ceases to exist right when he's poised to grasp it.


Somehow, I don't think Madara and Hashirama are going to fight. After everything else, after the juubi is taken care of, after we've seen them fight like three or four times already... it would just be a letdown and weird and pointless. Seeing the interaction between the two of them, it doesn't feel right for them to battle (and, need I remind you BOTH OF THEM ARE IMMORTAL ZOMBIES WITH INFINITE CHAKRA!). It'll probably just go something like this:

Hashirama: Okay, Madara. I've taken care of that other nonsense, and now I'm ready!
Madara: You've always put me second. You always were thinking about your brother, or about the village, or the Will of Fire or whatever else. You never took me seriously!
Hashirama: Not this time. I will fight you with my full power and attention; nothing else concerns me right now. I know now that you are strong! I cannot defeat you unless I give you everything I've got!
Madara: That's all I wanted. After all this time. To be acknowledged as your equal. Thank you. *crumbles to dust*


Then we can move onto the all important Naruto vs. Obito final battle.

Wait, does this lame power-up of hers take three years to charge up then its all used up in one shot, or can she do it regularly?

>>83082

It probably doesn't drain instantly.

I never gave much of a fuck about Sakura, but after her getting shafted for so long, this was a nice moment for her.

>>83083
Not really... she's still pretty weaksauce, especially if her powerup is just a goddamned one-pump chump. It would actually be incredibly pathetic, her powers are inferior to the boys and they don't even last.

Though her teach was easily the weakest of the three as well and the weakest hokage, so history repeats...?

>>83075
This man gets it.

>>83087
Replying to your own posts is poor form old chap

Wow, that's a pretty balls-to-the-wall retcon. Crude and awkwardly explicit, but it does get the job done. I'll take it.

>>83093
What is?

healing nin's main focus are supposed to be survival and healing. so... i don't hold it against them when they lack any combat prowess or superb kage-level environment destruction jutsu. tsunade saved countless lives and readied them for battle. sakura is similar. if you want to count those nin getting second chances to fight as one of her powers, they might as well have resurrected an army. even just healing naruto must not be trivial.

that's my two cents. not that powerful on their own. ensures a team is greater than the sum of their parts when they're there.

>>83096
Sakura needing to be protected by the boys directly after showing off her powerup and declaring herself their equal WAS pretty bad.

>>83098
this is true. she wasn't doing so great on the "survival" part of her job.

>>83098
It's almost like the story is supposed to emphasize them working together as some sort of a team or something.

>>83102
Yeah... but she did just spend the last three pages going on about how she's now their equals and can totally hold her own and doesn't need them to save her anymore because she not the damsel in distress that she use to be and - OH FUCK GUYS, SAVE ME!!!

I understand that there supposed to be a team and having them watch out for and save each others asses is a good way to show that, but if your trying to show how a characters grown, you can't pull that shit literally TWO PANELS after they just got done talking about how they won't need saving anymore.

Honestly, if this was being written by anyone else, I'd swear up and down that Sakura's entire character was done as a parody of how women are generally treated in shonen. Unfortunately this is Kishimoto and I don't think he's nearly that clever.

>>83103
Parody of how women are treated in Shounen? could you explain with more detail?

>>83104
Helpless setpieces that are generally just there to be rescued by the man-characters later?
Even when they pretend they aren't helpess, "I CAN FIGHT!", it still revolves back around to them being rescued by men when they get in too deep.
There are obviously exceptions but this is the case with a lot of things.

These filler episode continue to impress me.

It's like I don't even care about the main plot much anymore. But this stuff is great. It doesn't matter what happens to Sasuke, but this silly little kid and his tragic story makes me cry.

I think the writers for the anime are just leagues better than Kishimoto at this point. I really, REALLY wish that the series hadn't gotten bogged down in fillers and instead gone completely off-the-rails original starting with Shippuden, like what happened with the first FullMetal Alchemist anime. Can you imagine what they would have come up with??

>>83104
>>83106
Also, in series where gals in the main cast members do have strength, it's frequently a Token Empowered Female kind of thing- the character's power isn't integrated into the story, just kind of added like an obligatory afterthought.

Sakura atm is a REALLY blatant example of that- she's explicitly saying "you thought I was the damsel in distress huh well I'm not" and then thinking "these actions prove I'm not a damsel in distress". The in-story reason why she's now stronger is something she supposedly was secretly working on for the last two years, but if this had been Kishimoto's plan all along there's dozens of places and ways he could have made clear Sakura had something up her sleeve. (He's actually pretty good at that kind of thing- remember pre-timeskip Kabuto?) This is blatantly shoehorned in. It's a vast improvement over where Sakura was 3 chapters ago, but still not great.

>>83170
If you feel like to giving some examples of the filler being good, I'd be interested to hear them.

>>83174

It's mostly meaninglessly subjective. But I can give some examples of why fillers (in moderation) could be seen as being better.

Filler characters are new and fresh; contrast this to the canon, which has the same characters we've grown bored or frustrated with. People tend to like variety.

The plots are (within limits) unpredictable because they don't follow the manga; this contrasts with the canon episodes where you know exactly what will happen if you have read the manga. People tend to like novelty.

Everything is wrapped up in a nice little package within a half-dozen episodes or less; contrast this to the canon where this war has dragged on for YEARS with no resolution in sight. People tend to like brevity.

The filler episodes are written (probably) by a team of writers; contrast this to the how Kishimoto is writing the canon manga all by himself. A group of people is generally smarter (and thus more creative, ie: better at writing plots and dialogues) than an individual.

>>83174
The episode where they try to figure out what's under Kakashi's mask, only for him to reveal that under his mask is....ANOTHER MASK was pretty great.

>>83176
Oh, I just meant like what happened in one of these recent good filler bits. Who's that kid you mention and what's his deal, etc.

I really like chapter 633...
Fuck yeah new snake summon.
And is it wearing a Kakashi mask?
Awesome.

>>83173
Especially now with blowing up Sakura's "skills" out of proportion with her now magically knowing how to summon, a power that could have been useful in many parts of Part 2. But nah let's "surprise" readers. The fact is that Sakura still sucks and she's been so useless for so long that its impossible to take her seriously.

You know who also made this very mistake with a token female character? Tetsuya Nomura from the Kingdom Hearts series. Kairi debuted in the series as a damsel and stayed that way from 2002 to the present. Suddenly now in the latest game of the series we as long time fans are expected to believe that she has the power and ability to keep up with veteran fighting warrior characters? GTFO you useless wench and fuck the writers who think its a good idea to randomly switch gears going "Nope, its not what you think! You are wrong!" At least when Katara in Avatar stopped being worthless in battle she always showed a desire to improve and get her hands dirty and though it took a while for her to become a fighter it ultimately was NOT an unexpected development like how it is with Sakura and this slap to the face attempt Kishimoto is pulling out of his shit encrusted ass.

>>83211
Of course you liked this chapter. After spending so much time focusing solely on Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke, we finally get to see the characters nobody hates doing cool stuff.

Chouji as Shikamaru's gigantic yo-yo.

I didn't see that one coming.


As much as it's nice to see the whole "Team 7 Becomes the Sannin" bit like we all knew would happen eventually, it's kinda total bullshit that Sakura has the ability to summon something that big. It was established from the beginning that Naruto and Sasuke have A LOT of chakra, while Sakura has less but has better CONTROL of it. It makes little sense, even with that seal on her forehead, that she should have enough chakra to perform that. Also, it's kinda bullshit that Sasuke has a new snake summon. He hypnotized Manda and got him killed, and yet the snake-lords up on snake-mountain were all "Ah, it's okay. Here, have a new snake." without caring that it's well known how badly Sasuke mistreats his summons? Ridiculous.

And whatever happened to the hints dropped at the beginning that Sakura would be good with genjutsu? I guess with the Sharingan being able to out-genjutsu absolutely anything (even Kurenai, who was hyped up as one of the best at it right before Itachi went all "lol, no" on her without even using Tsukiyomi) it kinda got thrown out the window.


And apparently Sai is the new totally-helpless character to replace Sakura.

Ugh.