Hope there is a bandcamp release or something digital.

Frozen was pretty damn good. As was Get a Horse.

Yea Frozen has mostly been positive and apparently the Snowman wasn't as bad as people going in thought he'd be. and people are saps for adorable sister bonding stories.

I know its probably due to how they were rigged in the shot. Still its coming off as funny with some going off on the "OTP" chase.

I still would have preferred the original story, but they pulled it off well.

>>219944
>the Snowman wasn't as bad as people going in thought he'd be
Oh thank god.

>>219981
> I still would have preferred the original story, but they pulled it off well.

While it wasn't a terrible film or anything, quite frankly the story of HOW THE HELL they got this movie out of The Snow Queen would probably be more interesting. I mean seriously, I can sort of see how a neutered Hunchback became the Disney version, and changing Tarzan from White Men Are Awesome to an environmentalist tract was a no-brainer, but the changers here were mostly just... weirdly unnecessary.

>>219999
Essentially, the adaptation process got derailed all the time because they got too caught up in the idea of a Snow Queen and wanted her to play a larger part in the story to the point where they just started going "Fuck it". Hell, a pitch Michael Eisner was interested in for the SNow Queen was basically just a romantic comedy about the Snow Queen trying to find a man to warm her frozen heart.

>>220010
That's not too far off from the original, though. I mean, she abducted a guy in the original version too. It's not much of a stretch to turn the Snow Queen into a female Bowser.

>>220011
World needs more literature with those.

I'm just dissapointed it pretty much means that I'll never get a Disney quality production of my favorite HCA story close to its original form.

>>220010
>>220011
So like an... Ice Queen?

>>220013
Ditto. I feel deeply dissapointed. Especially since now that Disney has done a pseudo-Snow Queen, no top-level animation company is likely to do the real thing.

We'll always have Russia.

New Pirate Fairy trailer is continuing to lay down the Peter Pan prequel emphasis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqYPKMihYPE

>>220014
I was looking more for a snow queen. Seemingly soft and beautiful. But harsh and cold.

>>220302
I was mostly making a joke about Ice King from Adventure Time being an actual winter themed Bowser, though it seems like waaaay too much of a convoluted train of thought to be a deliberate reference.

Got back from taking little sister to Frozen. It's... an okay movie. My main problem is that my GOD I hated a lot of the music, other than 3 or 4 of the songs I found it all very annoying. In particular, all of Anna's songs (not because of Bell, she did her best), Olaf's song, and the trolls drove me fucking crazy.

>>220318
Oh so it's out, wow no wonder people are saying the animation errors are super embarrassing.

>>220330
But... I dont see any...

>>220354
her hair phases through her arm super hard, there are a bunch of other clipping error but I didn't save them because they aren't as glaringly obvious.

>>220354
Watch that ponytail very carefully.

Now I'm curious: how do animation errors in cgi work? Doesn't the concept mean it's impossible to go off model unintentionally?

>>220330
Overall I would say the animation is pretty fucking awesome, it's one element I have no problems with.
Disney's Frozen "Let It Go" Se…

>>220363
> Doesn't the concept mean it's impossible to go off model unintentionally?

The "model" you'd be off in this case wouldn't be the 3D model itself, but whatever concept art or real life object you're basing it on. For instance, the parts of most 3D models can end up in positions where the parts clip together, detached, or have their surfaces split apart. Certainly not something you'd consider on-model.

>>220385
>>220318
So what I get from this: even if it wasn't a clone of Tangled like the marketing implied, it's felt a lot like Tangled? (Pretty animation, mediocre songs, etc.)

>>220393
Likely they turned off the physics for that part of the hair or something because it was going nuts. Should have borrowed some TressFx

>>220385
It bothers me so much that Idina's model is so stiff faced and inexpressive. Listening to the song on its own is incredible, but Elsa's model just seems so disconnected. So lazy

The snow/particle effects on the other hand are amazing. I actually watched the movie twice just to gawk at them

>>220385
You know suddenly this makes sense.

I ended up seeing this with a friend since 1) She wanted to see it, 2) It was playing right when we were in the mood to see a movie. We ended up seeing it in 3D, and there was a really great Mickey Mouse Short before the movie that I loved that was done in the 30's style, and switched up between 2D animation and CGI/3D. It was spectacular.

As for the movie itself, I thought Olaf was going to be awful, but ended up being one of the better parts of the movie. I'm glad they kind of strayed away from the "True Love is everything" message, and it was pretty reasonable. The movie is one of the few I've seen that actually uses 3D well, and the animation is gorgeous. I actually didn't catch the animation errors others were talking about.

The story was... Kind of middling. I liked the whole Hans faceheel turn twist, and even though I was exopecting it, they managed to hide it well enough that when it did happen, I was surprised.

Anna got a little grating at times, and I know the story (in the movie) is about her overcoming her own naivete and learning to be reasonable, but goddamn at some points. The story probably would have been better off without the trolls. They weren't really needed, and didn't add much to the subplot about Kristoff and his childhood. Like, they were really unnecessary (I assume they're a hold over from the original fairy tale?).

I felt like the movie also didn't pace it's songs well enough. It felt like their were too many back to back at the beginning, and then weirdly placed through out. "Let it Go" was good, and I kind of liked "Wanna build a Snowman," but I felt it went on a little too long. The troll's song felt really forced, like they were really trying to drive home that there was romantic tension between Kristoff and Anna, in case you didn't get it before.

Overall it was a good movie. Also, since me and my friend were talking through the credits, we ended up seeing the after credits scene.

>>220330
>>220360
This isn't an error, it's deliberate, and it's not noticeable at all in the actual scene unless you are specifically looking for it (and even then it's hard to catch). Picking on this to say the quality isn't good is like picking on tweens in 2D animation. They look "off" but you can only see them for a fraction of a moment and they're actually needed to keep the animation fluid and interesting.

>>220433

And to back up your point, from our dear friend Coelasquid:

http://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/69525125708/there-you-go-tumblr

Did this gif cause a massive shitstorm somewhere (not that I would doubt it, but I must have missed it), because otherwise these passionate defenses seem really out of left field.

>>220438

On Tumblr and/or /co/, yes.

>>220439
So the usual suspects; thanks. Like I said, the defenses looked a little goofy out of context but the opposite reaction is pretty inexplicable too. What ever happened to light ribbing over Sokka's disappearing gloves and the like. These days I see people doing redlines over episodes of Korra. Redlines for an animated production.

>>220440
yea, don't know why people think they have to take everything super serious. Maybe we are having too many people that didn't grow up with MST3K and haven't learned to laugh and enjoy the goofs and jump cuts.

I honestly have no idea how people could complain about the animation. Like, I don't even get how people say the faces look inexpressive, Let It Go actually looked like a Broadway routine.

Havent seen Frozen nor do I plan to. That snowman looks 1000x worse than the robot from treasure planet

>>220457
The short answer is that a lot of people had it out for this movie from the very beginning and had already decided it was the worst thing ever made and they hated it from the first preview

So now any insignificant flaw they can find is going to get magnified 1000x

>>220459
To be honest, the previews looked awful. More seriously, as the coelasquid post related to the one linked above said, even if it is leaking in somewhat irrational ways the resentment does come from some understandable reasons. (Like that really misguided comment admitting that the women look samey is because they were keeping them generically pretty...even if it's true you don't SAY stuff like that.)

>>220460
That reason is pretty full of shit coming from Tumblr considering how many samface: the anime series they're madly in love with

>>220460

>Like that really misguided comment admitting that the women look samey is because they were keeping them generically pretty

That wasn't actually said by someone who was apart of the creative staff though.

IIRC it was a marketing exec. So it was a guy who was bad at his job, not really someone who actually had input in the movie.

>>220458
He's actually one of the least annoying Disney sidekicks we've had in years.

>>220467
It's kind of a big mistake to equate everyone angry with Frozen to people who don't give a shit about it in any other instance. Also equating relatively low budget TV shows with short production times to a big feature film that had been in development for several years. The thing is, they had the money, time and fanbase to do something unique, but they chose to play it safe and ruined the original story's message and intentions in the process, and the sameface didn't make it better.

The new story might be good in its own right and have nice twists of its own but it is pretty obvious why it was changed, and people have a right to be angry about that.

>>220468
I'm pretty sure he was an animator.

>>220467
Alright, maybe it's a little hypocritical for THEM to say that, but not everyone complaining was a part of them (hell one critic was the aforementioned Coelasquid, not a big sameface supporter herself - liking/disliking a movie doesn't have to be an absolute thing.)

Yeah I heard it was from an animator, but hey it's the internet so maybe my source was bullshitting. Either way it was a horrible statement to make because again it flared up the problems people already had with the movie.

Heh Korra haters trying to derail a Frozen general, what do they have against a woman with water based abilities?

>>220509
Speaking as a Korra fan, fuck Frozen. The writing wasn't the worst thing ever, but just not remotely good enough to excuse the lazy designs, surprisingly meh and occasionally choppy animation, shit-tier songs, and general fucking-up of something that deserved to be far better. They've been working on this project for HOW long?

>>220509
Don't try to put Elsa and Anna in the same boat as that incompetent nimrod!

>>220458
You really ought to give the movie and the snowman a chance. He's actually a cute character.

The only outright irredeemable parts of Frozen are "Do You Want to Build a Snowman" and everything with the trolls though, which amounts to a sum total of about 6-7 minutes scattered through the film. Otherwise the music (aside of "Let It Go", that saami folk song, and the ice guys song from the OP) is just forgettable, about on the level of Tangled songs.

>>220562
Tangled had much better songs imo. Mother Knows Best + the reprisal was awesome. And better characters in general. Frozen was just....mediocre I guess? Not good, but not bad either.

Had a thought, could Frozen benfit from the old Disney Series treatment like Aladdin?

>>220563
Oh I hated all the songs from Tangled (ESPECIALLY Mother knows best v1, v2 was better but still not great) except the bar song, and that was just because the sight gags during it were great. That movie would be better without any songs at all really.

>>220576
Agreed on how easy it would be to remove the songs from Tangled; there's a moment in the first Mother Knows Best where focus is entirely on Rapunzel and I swear the singing fades for the sound effects of her bumping into things and I'm like "Is this even a musical?"

>>220570

That way leads to darkness Bunker.

First we make a series. Then we make a TV cartoon studio to make the series.

Then we get lazy and churn out sequels and pass them off to said TV cartoon studio.

Then we start to give those sequels theatrical runs.

>>220580
yea probably for the best.

Though it does look like Disney is jumping on the Monster High bandwagon.

https://d23.com/disney-channel-announces-new-movie-introducing-the-teenage-descendants-of-disneys-evil-villains/

This will be series I can pretty much make a safe bet on it.

>>220580
Bambi 2 had amazing visuals and soundrack, and it was 2D when it was already a dying art on Disney. Totally worth watching on theatres. Just saying.

Also, wasn't A Goofy Movie pretty much the ending movie for Goof Troop? And Kim Possible had a nice ending movie (though direct for tv).

>>220583

One or two decent hits doesn't make up for the complete SLOG of entirely unnecessary drivel and shit we got.

Random question: did Emperor's New Groove have any people from Hercules working on it? Pacha's family gave huge Hercules vibes.

>>220591

Andreas Deja was supervising animatior on both films.

>>220590
Dunno... I mean, at least we got SOMETHING. Now they don't even want to make any more 2D feature animations, and I'm kinda surprised to see Disney getting more into musicals again.

Shippers gonna ship. Really the fits some are causing themselves over frozecest are silly.

>>220509
>>220680
Can we please stop going meta and dragging in fandom drama from offsite? You want to go wallow in it, do it somewhere else, and don't try to bring it up here, please.

>>220680
Tumblr fangirls have been on a roll with this.

Yea and with word that Maleficent is going with some Wicked stuff and some cross generational talk "Maleficent's happiness is connected to Aurora" or some such. Itself is going to be an interesting movie. And likely a confusing one since one of the kids is said to be hers in their little screen Descendants show. Disney gets more and more Fanfictiony with each passing generation as more that grew up on it begin to actually work in it. Not bad thing, just interesting.

Also possibly linked something in the back of my head says some kids/tweens somewhere in that bracket show is going to take a stab at "non-traditional" relationships bleh stupid terms. But something gives me a feeling about that subject coming up next year.

Disney Japan put out this Flash Animated Christmas Card starring Oswald!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_LSKRQdFW8

So when is The Lucky Rabbit going to get some screen time in those Mickey Shorts. That would be actually kinda nifty.

>>220556
Speaking as a Frozen fan: fuck. you. This is the definition of good writing. Trying to compare it to the slop on Nickelodeon you pigs in human clothing suck down on a daily basis and ask for seconds and thirds and fourths of is literally offensive.

http://vk.com/video104570163_167142888

Gravity Falls Promo..from Russia. Loving Russian Stan though.

>>221008
Is this copypasta?

>>221229
Possibly course that was before the Frozen thing really kicked into being its own sub community over on /co/. Working on an idea for a Frozen series simialr to Sophia the First for older kids. Getting Frozen into the shared universe I find an interesting concept and practice since they are open to the whole use of their properties in new fictions. Core concept is Elsa is off to make herself part of the larger royal community and Anna is overprotective and seeks to protect her by tagging along in disguise. Elsa is never fooled by the ruses and just teases Anna along until the end of the story at which time Elsa each disguise that Anna wore. Anyone know of anything that tells how to construct a pitch? I think this could work as a show idea between the Sophia and Once age groups.

Just got back from Frozen--it was actually really good. The music, as has been noted, was largely forgettable (though I did kind of like the "Let it Go" number, even though it was basically just "Defying Gravity: Snow Queen Version.") and even actively out of place from time to time. But Anna is probably the most likable Disney princess I've seen, and I loved how it avoided falling into just going by the usual Disney Formula.

It was quite funny, too, in a lot of parts. And not just from Anna being a huge dork, but from genuinely well set-up jokes and stuff.

>>221234
So Disney is getting a better handle on their comedic balance you think?

>>221235
Wouldn't want to speak for Disney as a whole, but the writers on this particular project did a really good job of balancing the comedy and the adventure, and also did well at both writing clever dialogue and basing the humor in consistent characterization.

>>221236
Yea I've heard mostly praise regarding the characters even the snowman gets some cred for being more of a plot point rather than a just a joke. I've not seen it yet but just from looking at stills and the books hey these two people really care for each other. Its the bonds that I think Brave never really solidified in their familial unit with their mother and daughter.

The Mini Adventures of Winnie …

Oh to be motherly dommed by Kanga.

http://pastebin.com/EQ3Zzbky

working on something that I think might be a good series pitch.

New parade at Disney World is gonna feature a steampunk Dragon Maleficent.

>>221930
is that what the electric light parade dragon was supposed to be?

>>221935
No, the Electric Parade's dragon is Elliott from Pete's Dragon.

>>221937
I knew one was, some reason I remember two, eh early childhood memories. More Mally the better anyway. I'm going to write a book with that Prince goes to save princess gets sidetracked by a Fey Queen, goes with Fey Queen and the Princess has to get hew own way out

I'm going to Disneyworld this May.

Anyone got some good park guides to read, or tips to go with? I have a good six days to explore, so I can go back to some of the parks once.

>>221942
there are a few good video guides. to some rides and attractions, couple of urban exploration crews have also done some.

The Scrooge Album is coming on April 11th, with a single release of the track "A Lifetime of Adventure" coming on February 7th.

This is the Album's tracklisting:
>01. Glasgow 1877
>02. Into The West
>03. Duel & Cloudscapes
>04. Dreamtime
>05. Cold Heart Of The Klondike
>06. The Last Sled
>07. Goodbye, Papa
>08. To Be Rich
>09. A Lifetime Of Adventure
>10. Go Slowly Now, Sands Of Time

So I've seen a whole bunch of shitstorms lately over the fact that people are calling Saami POCs now. Is this really a thing? I mean, they're not Vikingstock white but they're from the Balkans and Caucasus area, and I don't think (sane) people would ever call Slavs and Caucasians POCs. I have no idea what they actually see themselves as, but I surely doubt they consider themselves to be kin with blacks or East Asians or the like.

>>222028
Lifetime of Adventure got a two-week early release on the official Nightwish Fan app, but Johanna Kurkela, who is playing the part of Glittering Goldie and sings this track, presumably being in Scrooge's head, put up a low-quality version on her Tumblr recording it playing from the app.

http://johannakurkela.tumblr.com/post/74264616347/johanna-kurkela-a-lifetime-of-adventure-the

New trailer for Maleficent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgmFAOgm5E

It's a nicely edited trailer, but it looks like they screwed the pooch and decided not to have a dragon or goons. Who needs them when you can just hire Biollante and some Ents to do the job for you?

>>222573
her cheekbones are freaky, mainly because they didn't do anything or enough to the chin to give some symmetry.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN7XywMBefk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DsXcWikIzs

Oh Disney

A live-action film based on Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers is now in the works. Set sail for fail.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/rescue-rangers-disney-developing-live-action-chip-n-dale-movie-1201080563/

>>222827
Not enthused to see Gadget getting all flirty with the human male lead, because most of the Disney project now are wish fulfillment .

>>222827
Welp, that's that fond childhood memory set to be raped.

>Project is essentially Disney’s version of Sony’s “Smurfs,” Fox’s “Alvin and the Chipmunks” and “Garfield” films, which inject cartoon characters into live action settings.

There is nothing good in that sentence.

>>222827

Not all that enthused for the film itself, but if it means new CDRR merch and a proper re-release of the original series, I say bring it awn.

Scrooge Video is up

TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN - A LIFETIME…

We got leaks on some character designs for Big Hero 6

Production on Phineas & Ferb is over; may be cancelled.

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/its-official-phineas-and-ferb-cancelled-96101.html

>>223548
To be honest I'm amazed it lasted this long, was always way ahead of it's time.

Phineas and Ferb-A Real Boy Lyrics(HD)

Wonder if we'll get an answer as to what Pixar did to make Hollywood so mad.

>>223586
Like it matters. Even if it was nominated, Monsters University wasn't even in the same league as Ernest & Celestine or The Wind Rises.

Frankly it's an insult to those two movies that The Croods, Despicable Me 2, and Frozen are the other nominees.

>>223662
It doesn't but as much as they usually fawn over them I find it interesting they were utterly shafted this time around. Kinda want to see what reception Frozen gets, and really hope they don't mention the tumblr headcanon.

>>223678
>>223586

oscar politics work like this: the studios push the movies they want awards for super hard to the academy so that they get nominations (read: pay a shit ton of money to get nomination). disney wants everyone to think that disney is back on top of its game as the undisputed king of animation so they push their non-pixar film super hard (frozen) while pixar is caught in a contract that demands x number of sequels to previous movies since the loss of steve jobs has wrenched creative control from lasseter to disney execs (proof of which came out after it was revealed that disney execs ruined brave and pulled the director from the project because her vision wouldnt move toys). this is a political grab by disney, its underhanded and its immensely shitty.